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    Official UNH Wildcats Offseason Thread 2012

    The search for a couple of snipers goes on.

    Any chatter about possible ooc opponents for next season?

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    Seems oddly early for an off season thread.

    When I saw the OOC schedule this past summer, I thought that we were doomed (i.e., not very high profile opponents). But, as things turned out, four of our OOC games were against teams that ended the season well ahead of us, for the moment anyway: Union (W2-1; 7th RPI 0.5499, tied 6th PWR at 25), St. Cloud (L7-5, T3-3; 21st RPI 0.5153, tied 19th PWR at 12), Harvard (L7-6; 23rd RPI 0.5148, tied 22nd PWR at 10). Through this past season, we did not have any choice on Dartmouth at VC (W5-1; 43rd RPI 0.4817). I am glad that we played Huntsville, as that team deserves a schedule in my view, but sorry that we ran up the score (W9-1; 57th RPI 0.3980). Brown nose-dived after beating us (L5-2; 51st RPI 0.4545). At the moment, our RPI is 0.5003 for a TUC, and our SOS is 15th, which is testament to how good Hockey East was this past season.

    Hope that we can host one of the more elite teams in the WCHA or CCHA for a two-game visit to Lake Whitt this coming season, and replace Dartmouth with Cornell or Ylae (probably not St. Lawrence, now that Marsh has retired?). But, of course, none of this matters if we cannot put more pucks in the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    Seems oddly early for an off season thread.

    When I saw the OOC schedule this past summer, I thought that we were doomed (i.e., not very high profile opponents). But, as things turned out, four of our OOC games were against teams that ended the season well ahead of us, for the moment anyway: Union (W2-1; 7th RPI 0.5499, tied 6th PWR at 25), St. Cloud (L7-5, T3-3; 21st RPI 0.5153, tied 19th PWR at 12), Harvard (L7-6; 23rd RPI 0.5148, tied 22nd PWR at 10). Through this past season, we did not have any choice on Dartmouth at VC (W5-1; 43rd RPI 0.4817). I am glad that we played Huntsville, as that team deserves a schedule in my view, but sorry that we ran up the score (W9-1; 57th RPI 0.3980). Brown nose-dived after beating us (L5-2; 51st RPI 0.4545). At the moment, our RPI is 0.5003 for a TUC, and our SOS is 15th, which is testament to how good Hockey East was this past season.

    Hope that we can host one of the more elite teams in the WCHA or CCHA for a two-game visit to Lake Whitt this coming season, and replace Dartmouth with Cornell or Ylae (probably not St. Lawrence, now that Marsh has retired?). But, of course, none of this matters if we cannot put more pucks in the net.
    I heard we are playing in Dartmouth holiday tournament next year.

    I also think we will see less of St. Lawrence with out the connection to Marsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    I heard we are playing in Dartmouth holiday tournament next year.

    I also think we will see less of St. Lawrence with out the connection to Marsh.
    I think thats a good thing.. I was never a fan of the 3 week break. I dont think its good for the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    I heard we are playing in Dartmouth holiday tournament next year...
    Does that mean we don't play them in Manchester next year? I'd rather play them in their tournament than at the Verizon, for a few reasons, but a chief one is that, as has been stated, the extended break is too long otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goblue View Post
    Does that mean we don't play them in Manchester next year? I'd rather play them in their tournament than at the Verizon, for a few reasons, but a chief one is that, as has been stated, the extended break is too long otherwise.
    I heard chatter earlier this season that the mid-January game at Verizon will be vs. Merrimack, not sure how much truth lies within it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jml42691 View Post
    I heard chatter earlier this season that the mid-January game at Verizon will be vs. Merrimack, not sure how much truth lies within it though.
    I know that we won't be playing Dartmouth at the Verizon anymore, but not sure who or if there will be someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUNH View Post
    I think thats a good thing.. I was never a fan of the 3 week break. I dont think its good for the team.
    They played before New Years this year (vs Brown on Dec 30). So what the break is going to be 2-3 day shorter.
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    They are playing in the Dartmouth holiday tournament, and it looks like Merrimack at the Verizon in January.
    https://www.unionleader.com/article/2...965&source=RSS

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUNH View Post
    They are playing in the Dartmouth holiday tournament, and it looks like Merrimack at the Verizon in January.
    https://www.unionleader.com/article/2...965&source=RSS
    So, we will be the "home" team at the Verizon on the Saturday night after playing at Lawlor on the Friday night in January (and playing the third game at the Whitt).

    At the the Ledyard this past December, Dartmouth hosted Merrimack, Holy Cross, and our old nemesis St. Lawrence; wonder who the other two teams will be this year?

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    Re: Official UNH Wildcats Offseason Thread 2012

    I was told that they would try to get a medical redshirt for Speelman but it all depended on adding playoff games because it would increase the percentage of games missed. Anyone have an idea if the percentage was met to redshirt him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat13 View Post
    I was told that they would try to get a medical redshirt for Speelman but it all depended on adding playoff games because it would increase the percentage of games missed. Anyone have an idea if the percentage was met to redshirt him?
    Unless the NCAA grants a special waiver (not likely) he will not get a redshirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIrinkrat View Post
    Unless the NCAA grants a special waiver (not likely) he will not get a redshirt.
    I really really hope he can redshirt.... our #2 player this year.. so heady.
    Sure he only had 3-3-6 through 11... but that was during our terrible start... so when the rest of the team picked it up.. surely he would've.

    We are so heavy on the lefties for next year... Speelman, Sorkin, Goumas, Burke, Downing, Thrush, Correale, McDonald, Gaudreault Vs. Henrion, Silengo, Block, Willows, Camper, Smith, Hill, Pavelski.
    Pretty much our top 5 guys. It'll be interesting to see the lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WIrinkrat View Post
    Unless the NCAA grants a special waiver (not likely) he will not get a redshirt.
    A friend of mine is on the board of the Friends of UNH Hockey, and at a recent meeting Dick Umile confirmed that Speelman will be granted a medical redshirt for this year.

    By making the HE playoffs, the percentage of games Speelman played in vs total games was met.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    A friend of mine is on the board of the Friends of UNH Hockey, and at a recent meeting Dick Umile confirmed that Speelman will be granted a medical redshirt for this year.

    By making the HE playoffs, the percentage of games Spleelman played in vs total games was met.
    Well that is interesting since he does not meet the criteria.

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    In other words you can not participate in more than 30% of your teams contests in a given season. There are 34 regular season contests, and conference championship games (so the 3 BU games) all count as 1 game. The exhibition game also counts as 1 game for purposes of this calculation.

    So, Speelman played in 12 out of 36 contests, or 33%. I'd love to get him back for an extra year too, but I just don't see the wiggle room available to make it happen and the NCAA is notorious for being pretty hard line on this stuff. Not saying there isn't some extenuating circumstance we don't know about that may be in play here, anything can happen, but by letter of the rules........

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    I went to the Hockey East Semi's and had the good fortune of speaking to one of the Assistant Coach's from another hockey east school. We had a very long conversation as I have known him for years.
    He stated to me that UNH is in trouble, it was Lasonde's third job offer when he finally left, Providence, CC and Denvcer had all had come calling. Also he stated that Johnny Gaudreau wanted to come to UNH in the worst way and the fact the coaching staff had brought his transcript to admissions on Aug 1 and they wouldn't even look at it for Sept 1. He told me the new addmissions director I think he is from Cornell is awful. He said there is no way Matt White and Cam Reid should not of been let into school. He was offered the job at UNH as where a couple of other UNH Almumns. No one wanted it with the new admission's director.

    He also said Sean McDonald is loosing assistants because of it, and men's basketball had 5-6 kids staring on other Div 1 rosters who commited to UNH and couldn't get into school.

    Someone shoudl tell admissions and the president that we are not an IVY league school. The rookie of the year from America East in basketball was at Vermont, but yet couldn't get into UNH. Go Figure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIrinkrat View Post
    So, Speelman played in 12 out of 36 contests, or 33%. I'd love to get him back for an extra year too, but I just don't see the wiggle room available to make it happen and the NCAA is notorious for being pretty hard line on this stuff. Not saying there isn't some extenuating circumstance we don't know about that may be in play here, anything can happen, but by letter of the rules........
    I would only say that the NCAA was notorious; there was a move put in place by Miles Brand at the end of his time to be a kinder NCAA to the student athletes. That seems to have carried forward, the "new" thinking was still to punish institutions but be a little more lenient on the kids. End of the day we will have to wait for the official ruling or maybe even for Speelman to set foot on the ice for a 5th year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeydad2005 View Post
    I went to the Hockey East Semi's and had the good fortune of speaking to one of the Assistant Coach's from another hockey east school. We had a very long conversation as I have known him for years.
    He stated to me that UNH is in trouble, it was Lasonde's third job offer when he finally left, Providence, CC and Denvcer had all had come calling. Also he stated that Johnny Gaudreau wanted to come to UNH in the worst way and the fact the coaching staff had brought his transcript to admissions on Aug 1 and they wouldn't even look at it for Sept 1. He told me the new addmissions director I think he is from Cornell is awful. He said there is no way Matt White and Cam Reid should not of been let into school. He was offered the job at UNH as where a couple of other UNH Almumns. No one wanted it with the new admission's director.
    Reid couldn't stick at St Cloud, stayed eligible, but left half way through this year to the WHL essentially for academic reasons.

    White looks like an issue with admissions, but who knows.

    The one that gets me is Gaudreau. That has nothing to do with grades etc. it was just admissions being inflexible (lazy) because they could. BC gets a fantastic player because their admissions people were flexible. That is a big problem for UNH, and the admissions director needs to get a good swift kick in the butt for it.
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