St. Cloud to NCHC

[SCSU Euro]

Re: St. Cloud to NCHC

I get confused because at one time, the ONLY concern that all of hockey should have (according to many SCSU fans and the administration) was for the betterment of the sport and being sure to save all of the existing programs. NOW SCSU is saying that they are ONLY concerned with what's good for them and to hell with the rest.

I actually think that this is a good move for the two teams, but I am troubled by the hyposcrisy. Oh well, it's going to be what ever it ends up.

There's some hypocricy there, but not as much as everyone's screaming about. What happens if SCSU says no? Then they take NMU, or BSU, hell maybe Fairbanks for the extra games, and the WCHA that we'd be staying in gets more watered down. Sorry, every single SCSU fan is picking between their 2nd and 3rd option, we all wanted the WCHA in tact with MN and UW leaving.

What do the Gophers have to do with it?
We could be winless and people would still show up for the Gophers, because they're the Gophers.
The same can't be said for Miami, UNO, Western, DU & CC.

Right... and UND will now be our Gophers in the years we don't get the Gophers. Its hard to compare numbers, because the official listing is that UND had 6,011 fans on Fri, 6,102 on Sat this year at the NHC, and BSU and MSU-M were both in the 5,900s, but those numbers are inflated with tickets sold but people not in the door. More people in the door means more concessions sold, and UND and Duluth tend to travel better than Bemidji and Mankato fans to our barn. That's $ into the community.

No, Miami, DU and CC don't draw huge numbers... but more people will actually show up to the games as opposed to Fairbanks, LSSU and Bowling Green

Right because I sent Brian Faison an email with the rest of the posters on here and said "create another league, we don't need Tech, 'Kato, and the rest of the bottom dwellers when we can create a super conference to rival the P1G Ten." Cry into someone else's t its.

Are you kidding me? You call us the fart that squeaked in, I point out that you would (in the analogy you created) be the ***, and then you accuse me of crying? Buddy I'm laughing, and its not WITH you

[Biddco]

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I abstain. I don't even know what to think about this.

Now my head hurts from thinking.

Classic SCSU alum.

I am glad the NCHC added more teams and a rival of UMD.


It is still hilarious how hypocritical SCSU has been during this. However, in college athletics this is nothing new.

[The Rube]

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Well, of course you would. You like the fact that SCSU has hockey but only at a level that does not threaten the U of MN hockey program. If they accept the invite it ratchets up their ability to recruit and continue to compete with the top programs.

Uh, what?

Edit: so, you'd rather be a probable middle of the pack instead of an annual powerhouse? Kids go to schools that win.

[First Time, Long Time]

Uh, what?

Edit: so, you'd rather be a probable middle of the pack instead of an annual powerhouse? Kids go to schools that win.

Yes they would.
Go read dahuskies, it's the same argument Rabid and a few others have been making and the response is yes, they'd rather be a 3rd, 4th, 5th in the NCHC than winning titles in a "weaker" WCHA.
Doesn't make sense to me either.

[gopher wes]

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Classic SCSU alum.

I am glad the NCHC added more teams and a rival of UMD.


It is still hilarious how hypocritical SCSU has been during this. However, in college athletics this is nothing new.

I find it kind of hypocritical that the original 6 in the NCHC didn't invite SCSU in the first place and then came crawling back to beg(maybe not the best word but I used it anyway) SCSU to join their party.

[The Rube]

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I find it kind of hypocritical that the original 6 in the NCHC didn't invite SCSU in the first place and then came crawling back to beg(maybe not the best word but I used it anyway) SCSU to join their party.

I also agree with that. They started out by asking the prom queen to the party, and ended up with the dork in special ed.

[Red Cloud]

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Just call it the National Collegiate Hypocrite Conference and be done with it, OK? Hypocrites abound on both sides. Jeez.

[scsutommyboy]

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The NCHC won't be getting half the league into the NCAA's every year.
It may happen, but it won't be an annual thing.
Some SCSU teams have been able to compete, and then they fall short.
A 42% winning percentage against the NCHC does not give me a lot of hope that we'll be making the tourney consistently and without winning, all those recruits some people expect will be coming won't be.
Big time kids don't play for losing programs no matter what conference they are in.
We could have been the top dog in the WCHA, instead some people would rather be a middle of the road NCHC school.

I said 3 or 4 teams getting in. So I agree half the league won't get in every year. also, like I said about us getting into the League. We need to wait and see how this all pans out. If Notre Dame doesn't go to the BIG, they will join the NCHC and then I would bet they will add another team as well. With 10 teams your weak arguement becomes even less valid......

[First Time, Long Time]

I said 3 or 4 teams getting in. So I agree half the league won't get in every year. also, like I said about us getting into the League. We need to wait and see how this all pans out. If Notre Dame doesn't go to the BIG, they will join the NCHC and then I would bet they will add another team as well. With 10 teams your weak arguement becomes even less valid......

Wanting to win is a weak argument now?
Let's say ND does come, IMO that puts us at best 6th most years behind UND, DU, CC, Miami, & ND.
If that's a good formula for you, fine, but to me, it looks like a lot of outside looking in for the NCAA's.

[4four4]

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Uh, what?

Edit: so, you'd rather be a probable middle of the pack instead of an annual powerhouse? Kids go to schools that win.

Kids go to schools for the education. Please stop with the winning angle.

[scsutommyboy]

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Wanting to win is a weak argument now?
Let's say ND does come, IMO that puts us at best 6th most years behind UND, DU, CC, Miami, & ND.
If that's a good formula for you, fine, but to me, it looks like a lot of outside looking in for the NCAA's.

Like I said before. Over the last 12 years SCSU has been to the NCAA's 7 times. Funny so has CC and Denver..... With 5 auto bids and 11 at large bids every year SCSU will get to the NCAA's plenty in the NCHC because there is no reason they can't get 3 or 4 teams in every year. Hopefully starting this year they will have better success in the NCAA tourney. I find it funny that miss positve is now miss negative on our program.

[The Rube]

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Like I said before. Over the last 12 years SCSU has been to the NCAA's 7 times. Funny so has CC and Denver..... With 5 auto bids and 11 at large bids every year SCSU will get to the NCAA's plenty in the NCHC because there is no reason they can't get 3 or 4 teams in every year. Hopefully starting this year they will have better success in the NCAA tourney. I find it funny that miss positve is now miss negative on our program.

And now you got rid of a couple gimme wins (or almost gimmes) by getting rid of some not-so-good schools, theoretically hurting your record, and your chance at an at-large bid.

And 444: while hockey is probably the least affected of the four major sports, there are a ton of kids who use college hockey as a steppingstone to the NHL, and care enough about education to remain eligible, and that's about it.

[First Time, Long Time]

Like I said before. Over the last 12 years SCSU has been to the NCAA's 7 times. Funny so has CC and Denver..... With 5 auto bids and 11 at large bids every year SCSU will get to the NCAA's plenty in the NCHC because there is no reason they can't get 3 or 4 teams in every year. Hopefully starting this year they will have better success in the NCAA tourney. I find it funny that miss positve is now miss negative on our program.

I'm miss realistic and unless they improve their winning % against the NCHC teams, they won't be seeing the NCAA's on a regular basis.

[MavsFan]

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Like I said before. Over the last 12 years SCSU has been to the NCAA's 7 times. Funny so has CC and Denver..... With 5 auto bids and 11 at large bids every year SCSU will get to the NCAA's plenty in the NCHC because there is no reason they can't get 3 or 4 teams in every year. Hopefully starting this year they will have better success in the NCAA tourney. I find it funny that miss positve is now miss negative on our program.

You have to consider that if the fallout of this is the folding of several programs, the tourney could very well go back to 12 teams.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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The funny part is we can tell the difference between the two sexes.

I should hope so. If you don't know the basic gender differences you shouldn't be out in public unsupervised.

Are you kidding me? You call us the fart that squeaked in, I point out that you would (in the analogy you created) be the ***, and then you accuse me of crying? Buddy I'm laughing, and its not WITH you

No, the fart comes OUT of the ***. That would make the WCHA the ***.

I also agree with that. They started out by asking the prom queen to the party, and ended up with the dork in special ed.

I don't know what you're talking about, the prom queen (Denver) accepted.

From day 1 people have been mentioning that the NCHC wouldn't have bottom-feeders. Well, now we do. You're all hypocrites.