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Originally posted by NUProf View PostSome dumb penalties??????
Season penalty statistics per collegehockeystats
Code:1 Univ. New England 25 557 22.3 2 Castleton 27 535 19.8 3 Saint Michael's 27 445 16.5 4 New England Coll. 26 400 15.4 5 Southern Maine 26 399 15.3 6 Saint Anselm 26 361 13.9 7 UMass Boston 26 337 13.0 8 Skidmore 26 334 12.8 9 Babson 28 354 12.6 10 Norwich 28 260 9.3
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Originally posted by 1985 View PostSo this is how the perception thing gets going, let add some facts to this:in 16 of the 27 games this year CSC had less pen/min than the opposition, take away 5 games that were smozzels and CSC ave 15 min in penalties(still too much but there is no "pattern"), against Norwich game 1 Norwich 5p 10 min,CSC 7p 14 min,game 2 Norwich 7p 25 min CSC 9p 26min, USM 7p 25 min CSC 8p 16 min, 2 playoff games CSC 7p 14 min and 3p 6minLast edited by NUProf; 03-08-2011, 05:40 PM.2007-2008 ECAC East/NESCAC Interlock Pick 'em winner
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Originally posted by NUProf View PostThe difference is statistically significant. Don't try to dress it up. Every team has high penalty games. Statistically there is a huge difference.
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Originally posted by NUProf View PostThe difference is statistically significant. Don't try to dress it up. Every team has high penalty games. It is telling that teams that normally don't take a lot of penalties end up with more penalties than usual when they play Castleton. The second NU game is a good example Norwich took almost three times as many penalty minutes above their average.
You can lay blame all you want but take responsibility for what your teams do and quit blaming CSC...CSC 14 of the 27 games took 7 or less penalties....keep looking for that boogy man but the young men at CSC are good guys and for you to insist that they have responsibilty for what the other teams do against them is nuts
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Originally posted by 1985 View PostThis is typical of what goes on those bad boys at CSC are the ones that caused us to take these penalties....so Morrisville 16/72 min vs CSC 12/35, Johnson and Wales 16/59 vs 8/16 ???
You can lay blame all you want but take responsibility for what your teams do and quit blaming CSC...CSC 14 of the 27 games took 7 or less penalties....keep looking for that boogy man but the young men at CSC are good guys and for you to insist that they have responsibilty for what the other teams do against them is nutsLakerEagleLover
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Originally posted by 1985 View PostThis is typical of what goes on those bad boys at CSC are the ones that caused us to take these penalties....so Morrisville 16/72 min vs CSC 12/35, Johnson and Wales 16/59 vs 8/16 ???
You can lay blame all you want but take responsibility for what your teams do and quit blaming CSC...CSC 14 of the 27 games took 7 or less penalties....keep looking for that boogy man but the young men at CSC are good guys and for you to insist that they have responsibilty for what the other teams do against them is nuts
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Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View PostRemy I'm not whining about the committee going by the numbers. I want to know why Elmira was still two last week and then all of a sudden this week they are 3. That's what I don't get. Especially when it cost the east a home game.
Dan, if the committee could go back and change the rankings why wouldn't they have done so so that Elmira would have hosted?
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Originally posted by sticksnstones View PostDude, they take a lot of penalties. The proof is in the numbers. Taking away this game and that game doesn't work. "If Plattsburgh takes away two losses to Oswego they would be 22-5-1." Yeah, you can't do that. It is what it is. They somehow managed to be quite successful even though they take a lot of penalties. This has nothing to do with how good they are as people.
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If Saturday doesn't come soon, the whining here will become deafening. On CSC men's hockey, I don't know whether the players are good guys or not. They most likely are. I do believe that they are playing the game the way their coach wants them to play. If the coach did not want them averaging almost a full period worth of penalties a game, he'd make sure that didn't see the ice very much. Look at the bottom (least penalized) teams in the penalty minute standings, Plattsburgh and Norwich. These players are not choirboys who don't want to hit anyone. They are playing the game the way their coaches want them to play.
Obviously, overriding all of this is my concern for player safety. Hits to the head have no place in hockey at any level. CSC has used athletics as a way to build their enrollment. This is a growth strategy that seems to be working. David Wolk should keep in mind, however, that on-ice behavior that may win a hockey game can also result in serious brain injuries to opposing (or his own) athletes. Hockey is a rough game but the kind of play that results in blatant hits to the head is not in his college's best interest or part of anyone's growth plan. We all worry about the player's safety. D3 hockey is not about making it to the NHL. It's about playing the game you love for your school, and your teammates. Play hard. Play to win. But don't play to end someone's playing career or worse.
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Originally posted by puxrex View PostIf Saturday doesn't come soon, the whining here will become deafening. On CSC men's hockey, I don't know whether the players are good guys or not. They most likely are. I do believe that they are playing the game the way their coach wants them to play. If the coach did not want them averaging almost a full period worth of penalties a game, he'd make sure that didn't see the ice very much. Look at the bottom (least penalized) teams in the penalty minute standings, Plattsburgh and Norwich. These players are not choirboys who don't want to hit anyone. They are playing the game the way their coaches want them to play.
Obviously, overriding all of this is my concern for player safety. Hits to the head have no place in hockey at any level. CSC has used athletics as a way to build their enrollment. This is a growth strategy that seems to be working. David Wolk should keep in mind, however, that on-ice behavior that may win a hockey game can also result in serious brain injuries to opposing (or his own) athletes. Hockey is a rough game but the kind of play that results in blatant hits to the head is not in his college's best interest or part of anyone's growth plan. We all worry about the player's safety. D3 hockey is not about making it to the NHL. It's about playing the game you love for your school, and your teammates. Play hard. Play to win. But don't play to end someone's playing career or worse.
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I have listen to this whine about CSC for 2 days now.YES THEY AVEAGE 20 MINUTES IN PENALTYS PER GAME.but look back to Union 2000-2001 stat year,The senior year for Alex Todd under Coach Kevin Shetton of UVM, Average penalty minutes 18.6. Teach what you are taught.
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Originally posted by NU 10 View PostI have listen to this whine about CSC for 2 days now.YES THEY AVEAGE 20 MINUTES IN PENALTYS PER GAME.but look back to Union 2000-2001 stat year,The senior year for Alex Todd under Coach Kevin Shetton of UVM, Average penalty minutes 18.6. Teach what you are taught.
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Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View PostRemy I'm not whining about the committee going by the numbers. I want to know why Elmira was still two last week and then all of a sudden this week they are 3. That's what I don't get. Especially when it cost the east a home game.
Dan, if the committee could go back and change the rankings why wouldn't they have done so so that Elmira would have hosted?
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