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  • #31
    Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    I don't think 2 MASCAC teams will be ranked.

    Question for Matt and Josh - once you are ranked, you are always ranked, right? So if #15 tanks, do we end up with 16 ranked teams????
    I'll answer the MASCAC part later but only current ranked teams are considered ranked teams. So never more than 15.
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    • #32
      Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

      Originally posted by Josh Carey View Post
      I'll answer the MASCAC part later but only current ranked teams are considered ranked teams. So never more than 15.
      When the system first started it was once ranked, always ranked - but they changed it after the first year.
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      • #33
        Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

        With the finals being in the West do you think the committee might pick 2 west teams in pool c just to try to have a More "western flavor" and to make a better chance of getting 2 western teams in the final four
        or will the seeding do that?

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        • #34
          Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

          Originally posted by Irishdave View Post
          With the finals being in the West do you think the committee might pick 2 west teams in pool c just to try to have a More "western flavor" and to make a better chance of getting 2 western teams in the final four
          or will the seeding do that?
          As long as there's one pool C for the west, they can guarantee that by the seeding. There are five first round byes - they give all four western teams a bye and they're in the quarter finals.
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          • #35
            Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

            Regional Rankings are released tomorrow, correct? Sorry, haven't had time to check the board lately.
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            • #36
              Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

              Originally posted by CardsFan91 View Post
              Regional Rankings are released tomorrow, correct? Sorry, haven't had time to check the board lately.
              Next Wednesday.
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              • #37
                Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                Originally posted by CardsFan91 View Post
                Regional Rankings are released tomorrow, correct? Sorry, haven't had time to check the board lately.
                This week is the double secret rankings. My question about that for somebody who knows: Are games against "secretly ranked" teams from this week counted as games against ranked teams for next week's rankings? It seems to me there's a certain iterative thing that goes on here when a team is unranked and another takes it's place - but that effect doesn't show up until the following week, right?
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                • #38
                  Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                  Originally posted by XYZ View Post
                  Next Wednesday.
                  Thank you.
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                  • #39
                    Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                    Originally posted by XYZ View Post
                    Next Wednesday.
                    It depends where you read in the manual. One section says the 1st ranking is released, while another one says it is "secret". The proofreading on the manual was pee poor. The have the championship dates right in one place and wrong in another.

                    I think D-III adopted the Mobius strip for a reason.
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                    • #40
                      Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                      Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                      This week is the double secret rankings. My question about that for somebody who knows: Are games against "secretly ranked" teams from this week counted as games against ranked teams for next week's rankings? It seems to me there's a certain iterative thing that goes on here when a team is unranked and another takes it's place - but that effect doesn't show up until the following week, right?
                      Correction, the record vs ranked teams count for the current weeks rankings, not the next. As you can imagine this creates quite the infinite loop of ranking teams then reranking them based on the previous rankings only to alter them because of the present rankings thus giving us the future rankings which are reranked due to the changes from the previous rankings which leaves us with the present rankings. Got that? Hence the need for this...

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                      • #41
                        Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                        Originally posted by Matt Rennell View Post
                        Correction, the record vs ranked teams count for the current weeks rankings, not the next. As you can imagine this creates quite the infinite loop of ranking teams then reranking them based on the previous rankings only to alter them because of the present rankings thus giving us the future rankings which are reranked due to the changes from the previous rankings which leaves us with the present rankings. Got that? Hence the need for this...

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                        • #42
                          Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                          Originally posted by Matt Rennell View Post
                          Correction, the record vs ranked teams count for the current weeks rankings, not the next. As you can imagine this creates quite the infinite loop of ranking teams then reranking them based on the previous rankings only to alter them because of the present rankings thus giving us the future rankings which are reranked due to the changes from the previous rankings which leaves us with the present rankings. Got that? Hence the need for this...

                          *****http://accuracyandaesthetics.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/mobius.jpg******
                          Processes like that don't always converge.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Bizarro World

                            I understand perfectly !!!
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                            • #44
                              Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                              Originally posted by Matt Rennell View Post
                              *****http://accuracyandaesthetics.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/mobius.jpg******
                              Upon further examination, that shape has two distinct sides - it is not a mobius strip at all.

                              Unless my eyes deceive me, that is.

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                              • #45
                                Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

                                Originally posted by joeyc3402 View Post
                                Upon further examination, that shape has two distinct sides - it is not a mobius strip at all.

                                Unless my eyes deceive me, that is.
                                I thought that the first time I saw it, but I was never sure enough to mention it.
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