how come?

[jcarter7669]

Re: how come?

Popular opinion insists that the success of a D1 college hockey program absolutely depends upon 18 hockey scholarships and a roster which relies upon recruits who will probably leave college after a year or two.

Facing these (reportedly) insuperable obstacles how come the Ivy League manages to regularly put two or three schools in the top ten D1 hockey programs? Better coaching? Brighter players? More stable rosters? Smarter recruiting? Any opinions about this phenomenon, excluding outbursts of scatology?

I really can't figure out why I respond to you. I must be going insane. But here goes :

a.) no one says that. Your last thead that generated discussion on the subject result in the statements that it typically leads to an increase in success, but never that success is dependent on a one and done or 18 scholarships. You are misrepresenting what was said.

B.) Ivy league schools have a successful recruiting tool, namely that you can get an education at an elite institution. Moreover, athletic scholarships aren't necessary when for example Harvard meets 100% of financial needs. So while there are no athletic scholarships it maybe close to a free ride. And you get the benefit of a Harvard education.


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[Jon]

Re: how come?

Facing these (reportedly) insuperable obstacles how come the Ivy League manages to regularly put two or three schools in the top ten D1 hockey programs?

According to Brown's radio team, it has a lot to do with the awful officiating in the ECAC.

According to Harvard's radio team, it has to do with the slow slowing style of Big Red Hockey.

And we really really don't want your opinions on the subject.

[wolverineTrumpet]

Re: how come?

Facing these (reportedly) insuperable obstacles how come the Ivy League manages to regularly put two or three schools in the top ten D1 hockey programs?

Probability?

Top 10 teams / 5 conferences = 2 teams per conference

(yes I know the Ivy League isn't a hockey conference...blah blah...I don't care)

[The Sicatoka]

Re: how come?

Facing these (reportedly) insuperable obstacles how come the Ivy League manages to regularly put two or three schools in the top ten D1 hockey programs?

Ivy League females don't shave; they go for that Euro/green/'back to nature' (hairy legs, hairy pits, hairy backs ) thing.

Without females to focus on, they devote that extra time to hockey.

And they still don't win the Title.

[MikeAnderson]

Re: how come?

Popular opinion insists that the success of a D1 college hockey program absolutely depends upon 18 hockey scholarships and a roster which relies upon recruits who will probably leave college after a year or two.

Facing these (reportedly) insuperable obstacles how come the Ivy League manages to regularly put two or three schools in the top ten D1 hockey programs? Better coaching? Brighter players? More stable rosters? Smarter recruiting? Any opinions about this phenomenon, excluding outbursts of scatology?

Why is there is overarching opinion that if a college student begins work in his field before completing his degree that he is a "failure" or that his school has "failed" him.

Alabama-Huntsville is a rocket scientist school. Plenty of undergrads there start becoming rocket scientists professionally long before their degrees are conferred through internships and the coop program. This is seen as "a good thing," and a success on a part of the institution.

Same kid plays on the hockey team, gets selected to become a professional athlete and pursues that career path, and this is seen as a failure on the part of the school.

Both people were prepared by their institutions for their eventual career paths.

Why is one necessarily better than the other?

[French Rage]

Re: how come?

There are regularly 2-3 Ivy teams in the top 10??? Cornell has poked in for most of the last decade, Harvard has been in a fraction of the time, and Yale even less so as it has only been for the last couple years. I'd say at best there've been 1.5 teams in the top 10, maybe closer to 1.

[Happy]

Re: how come?

Popular opinion insists that the success of a D1 college hockey program absolutely depends upon 18 hockey scholarships and a roster which relies upon recruits who will probably leave college after a year or two.

Facing these (reportedly) insuperable obstacles how come the Ivy League manages to regularly put two or three schools in the top ten D1 hockey programs? Better coaching? Brighter players? More stable rosters? Smarter recruiting? Any opinions about this phenomenon, excluding outbursts of scatology?

ivy hockey teams give out more scholarships than any other. thus, they tend to underachieve in my opinion.

[TimP]

Re: how come?

Harvard seems to always have one of the top 10 recruiting classes in the country. I'd hardly say that the admissions department is holding them back.

[huskyfan]

Re: how come?

Harvard seems to always have one of the top 10 recruiting classes in the country. I'd hardly say that the admissions department is holding them back.

Michigan has the best recruiting class

[LtPowers]

Re: how come?

Both people were prepared by their institutions for their eventual career paths.

Why is one necessarily better than the other?

Well, presumably the rocket scientist will be a professional rocket scientist until she retires. But the hockey player will only be a professional hockey player for twenty years, if they're lucky. If they don't have a college degree once their playing career is over, their options become much more limited.

That said, given the time issue, it only makes sense to start that pro career as early as possible; there's time for degree-getting once the joints start giving out.


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[dxmnkd316]

Re: how come?

I'm calling bullsh*t. This guy can't be real. I'm thinking either Sloe Gin or one of the Tech fans are screwing with us.

[KnowItAll]

Re: how come?

Ivy League females don't shave; they go for that Euro/green/'back to nature' (hairy legs, hairy pits, hairy backs ) thing.

Without females to focus on, they devote that extra time to hockey.

And they still don't win the Title.

we have a winner..... and oso, i gotta ask if the aspergers is official

[Runninwiththedogs]

Re: how come?

I'm calling bullsh*t. This guy can't be real. I'm thinking either Sloe Gin or one of the Tech fans are screwing with us.

I don't think Geist knows any of those words.

[KnowItAll]

Re: how come?

Same kid plays on the hockey team, gets selected to become a professional athlete and pursues that career path, and this is seen as a failure on the part of the school.

?

jared ross was aeronautical? the goalie?
or am i missing the other pro?

[LynahFan]

Re: how come?

Well, presumably the rocket scientist will be a professional rocket scientist until she retires. But the hockey player will only be a professional hockey player for twenty years, if they're lucky. If they don't have a college degree once their playing career is over, their options become much more limited.

Any college hockey player who has a 20 year professional career should not need to worry about his "options" after he is done playing. A 20-year career implies that he spent at least a good chunk of that time at the NHL level - almost nobody hangs around the AHL or ECHL for 20 years.

And if his playing career is only 4-5 years in the minors and he decides to hang them up at that point, he's at most 30 years old, and there are still lots of options available - there are plenty of 30 year olds working on undergraduate degrees.

That said, given the time issue, it only makes sense to start that pro career as early as possible; there's time for degree-getting once the joints start giving out.

Agreed.