With all the talk of expanding the mens basketball tournament to 96 teams. What are everyones thoughts on expanding the hockey to say 20 teams. Making a play in game in all 4 regions 4 v 5 winner versus the 1 seed. Depending on when that region would start it would either be thursday-saturday or friday-sunday? Just wondering thoughts.
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Originally posted by kcphotovideo View PostWith all the talk of expanding the mens basketball tournament to 96 teams. What are everyones thoughts on expanding the hockey to say 20 teams. Making a play in game in all 4 regions 4 v 5 winner versus the 1 seed. Depending on when that region would start it would either be thursday-saturday or friday-sunday? Just wondering thoughts.
The NCAA guideline is for 25% of the Div-I teams to get into the tournament. At 16 teams, hockey is over that threshold. It is more likely hockey goes back to 12 teams then go up to 20 teams. Basketball is under the threshold, hence the discussion (misguided IMO) to go up to 96 teams.
20 is too many, it dilutes the talent. Who wants to see a possibly .500 get an at large bid?
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Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostI think its fine with 16.... not to mention they have enough problems with attendance for the games they already have, let alone if they started having mid week games.
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Originally posted by Brian Gentry View PostIt has been discussed here many times, including many times the last few weeks.
The NCAA guideline is for 25% of the Div-I teams to get into the tournament. At 16 teams, hockey is over that threshold. It is more likely hockey goes back to 12 teams then go up to 20 teams. Basketball is under the threshold, hence the discussion (misguided IMO) to go up to 96 teams.
20 is too many, it dilutes the talent. Who wants to see a possibly .500 get an at large bid?
That said, it makes no sense to expand the tournament for a sport that has dropped some seven programs over the last 10 years. If anything, you will see the tournament contract to 12 teams before you ever see it expand.
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I agree that Div 1 hockey NCAA post-season should be cut back to 12 teams, in two regionals, with top four teams (two per regional) getting byes, like the olden days. But, all five conference tourney winners still get an autoseed to keep things interesting.
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Originally posted by Brian Gentry View Post20 is too many, it dilutes the talent. Who wants to see a possibly .500 get an at large bid?
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No tournament expansion (or reduction) until there are more teams playing D-1 hockey.
College hockey growth is moving along at a good pace. The main event is a sell out no matter who's playing (and if Detroit does well - it'll also be no matter where its held). Give the 4 regionals some time and the attendence will follow. In particular they need to work out where those are held (Ft. Wayne?). However, things are looking good with one exception. With little or no openings in existing conferences, I do wonder how easy it'll be for a new program to get up and running.
Really, really against cutting the tournament back. Every year some team is going to make it that maybe shouldn't have, but that's not a major problem. I like the no first round byes so every team has to win 4 games for the title. Also with a 12 team tournament if there's a couple of upsets in conference championships (think ECAC and Atlantic Hockey) a really good team on the cusp of the top 10 gets royally screwed. I don't think the sport benefits from that happening.Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
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16 is fine for now. We are already at 27.5% of the teams getting in.
For reference basketball is at 18.4% for D1 right now. Expansion to 96 would put them at 27.6%.PSNetwork / XBOX GamerTag: xJeris
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Originally posted by Rover View PostNo tournament expansion (or reduction) until there are more teams playing D-1 hockey.
College hockey growth is moving along at a good pace. The main event is a sell out no matter who's playing (and if Detroit does well - it'll also be no matter where its held). Give the 4 regionals some time and the attendence will follow. In particular they need to work out where those are held (Ft. Wayne?). However, things are looking good with one exception. With little or no openings in existing conferences, I do wonder how easy it'll be for a new program to get up and running.
Really, really against cutting the tournament back. Every year some team is going to make it that maybe shouldn't have, but that's not a major problem. I like the no first round byes so every team has to win 4 games for the title. Also with a 12 team tournament if there's a couple of upsets in conference championships (think ECAC and Atlantic Hockey) a really good team on the cusp of the top 10 gets royally screwed. I don't think the sport benefits from that happening.bueller: Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good? Why does Positrack work? Why does Ferris lose on the road and play dead at home?
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Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostI think its fine with 16.... not to mention they have enough problems with attendance for the games they already have, let alone if they started having mid week games.Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must first set yourself on fire.
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Count me as really against cutting back to 12. Esp. with the AHA autobid. How many times have we seen a team seeded from 10-14 get to the Frozen Four? No need to leave them out of the tournament.
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Originally posted by JF_Gophers View PostFor reference basketball is at 18.4% for D1 right now. Expansion to 96 would put them at 27.6%.UAH - The Cleveland Browns of COLLEGE HOCKEY
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I'm for keeping the tourney as is with 16 teams although I would favor the idea of doing to regionals, east v. west style.
Keep the east teams playing in the east and the west teams playing in the west, top four duke it out.Originally posted by HokydadMaine will be better this year relative to rankings than BC will be this year
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