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  • #16
    Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Perhaps it's time to have a serious conversation about changing the culture of police unions? Seems to me that's where the unwritten code of not snitching on fellow officers who do wrong stems from.
    Everyone else in America outside of MLB got their unions nerfed. That's long past overdue.
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    • #17
      Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

      Moved from the closed thread in response to Rube:


      Comprehend what - that this rarely if ever happens? When are we going to see widespread instances of cops stepping in to stop abuses by their partners rather than it being condemned after the fact? Stop deflecting and defending these guys like Pavlov's dog hearing a bell. "What, someone disparaged a cop? I'm Brent and off to their rescue".

      Screw that Brent - these guys need to start doing the right thing when it matters. Before it's too late. Yet here we are because no one had the presence of mind out of 4 cops - 100% of those on scene - to do the right thing. But you want me to comprehend that it might have been different if it was 4 other cops because all we have are examples of that happening over and over. Right?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        Perhaps it's time to have a serious conversation about changing the culture of police unions? Seems to me that's where the unwritten code of not snitching on fellow officers who do wrong stems from.
        Oh we are years behind in that conversation

        Jesus the troopers look like soldiers. I am not sure this is what people wanted. Troopers in riot gear with weapons. Their restraint is not limitless and something bad will happen.

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        • #19
          Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

          People took natty ice beer while looting??

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          • #20
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            I wonder when Dump will send in the Army as a political stunt.

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            • #21
              Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
              People took natty ice beer while looting??
              But not Diet Coke.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                Is Bob Krolls wife broadcasting? Not interested in hearing from Anyone married to such a piece of shiat
                Not that I have seen. Frank, Amelia, Mike Max, Pat Kessler and a few other male reporters. By accident Max ended up right in the thick of it and got gassed.

                Cops are moving and the riots are dead there.
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                • #23
                  Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  Moved from the closed thread in response to Rube:


                  Comprehend what - that this rarely if ever happens? When are we going to see widespread instances of cops stepping in to stop abuses by their partners rather than it being condemned after the fact? Stop deflecting and defending these guys like Pavlov's dog hearing a bell. "What, someone disparaged a cop? I'm Brent and off to their rescue".

                  Screw that Brent - these guys need to start doing the right thing when it matters. Before it's too late. Yet here we are because no one had the presence of mind out of 4 cops - 100% of those on scene - to do the right thing. But you want me to comprehend that it might have been different if it was 4 other cops because all we have are examples of that happening over and over. Right?
                  And it is changing. It's a slow change, but it is changing. Noor, this, it's happening. It's not flipping a switch. We're changing a psyche AND fighting poor recruitment (due to various factors, a lotta meatheads are on the force right now).

                  My point is the MAJORITY of the cops are good. That is why it is news. Bad cops are rare(r). Plane crashes vs car crashes. Really think about it.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                    I wonder when Dump will send in the Army as a political stunt.
                    When it's all over in a week or two...then he and his supporters will claim he squashed it, saving the state while the evil Democrats stood by and did nothing.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      Oh we are years behind in that conversation

                      Jesus the troopers look like soldiers. I am not sure this is what people wanted. Troopers in riot gear with weapons.
                      NYC has been slowly disarming it's cops and returning them to human-scale law enforcement rather than paramilitary cosplayers. They realized that storm troopers make a peaceful situation violent and a violent situation a war zone. I'd like to see all the podunk forces be disarmed too.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        Perhaps it's time to have a serious conversation about changing the culture of police unions? Seems to me that's where the unwritten code of not snitching on fellow officers who do wrong stems from.
                        Unions are made up of their members. if the union sucks its because the members suck. If cops could be trusted to do the right thing on any given day their union would function like it should on most days. I have been tasked to represent members who have done some pretty reprehensible things (nothing of the likes of what your average killer cop mind you) but for the most part, members of unions I have worked for have not been interested in protecting people who do truly reprehensible things. So I am seeking due process, fair hearings, appropriate discipline. If the cops were right in the head, their unions probably would be too.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                          Apparently US military on standby

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                          • #28
                            Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                            Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                            When it's all over in a week or two...then he and his supporters will claim he squashed it, saving the state while the evil Democrats stood by and did nothing.
                            Of course, but both sides are so dug in now that the Rs will masturbate themselves to that and the Ds will say DIAF; status quo ante.

                            So, will it have any effect at all? You guys know better than anybody. My impression where I live is there is no political movement between parties possible anymore. Alignment is frozen. Either you're okay with Nazism or you're not. Turn-out is all that matters and decides every election.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                              Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                              And it is changing. It's a slow change, but it is changing. Noor, this, it's happening. It's not flipping a switch. We're changing a psyche AND fighting poor recruitment (due to various factors, a lotta meatheads are on the force right now).

                              My point is the MAJORITY of the cops are good. That is why it is news. Bad cops are rare(r). Plane crashes vs car crashes. Really think about it.
                              This? What has changed from, "this"? And don't treat me like an idiot - no one expects a switch to be flipped but cops stepping in to stop their partners from committing crimes should be the norm not the exception. It should have already happened a long time ago. But it's not happening not even yet.

                              I don't give a ****** what % of cops are good. I don't hate cops. A very good friend of mine from H.S. is Scott Gerlacher - very high ranking official with the MPD. My best friend's twin nephews are both Mpls cops that started in Brooklyn Center. I don't hate cops and you've seen me step in for their defense here when it's warranted.

                              Stop deflecting.

                              It's not happening.

                              At all.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

                                Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                                Apparently US military on standby
                                Good luck with that.
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