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  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    By the way, everyone who is freaked out by the decision to charge the cop with 3rd degree murder rather than 2nd degree murder, the sentence the guy is going to get would be the same anyway, unless they could show intent to murder.

    People get all hung up on the maximum sentence and minimum sentence language in the statutes, but it doesn't work that way. There are specific sentencing guidelines and it's really hard to depart from them.

    Here is the sentencing grid, and both are level 10.

    https://mn.gov/msgc-stat/documents/G...andardGrid.pdf


    If anyone is still skeptical, have them check with Handy's relatives.
    Same thing with the Chicago cop in the Laquan McDonald case.
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      There's your acquittal. City's gonna burn twice.
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      • Originally posted by BassAle View Post
        Kind of like how Trump “really gets this” Covid stuff because his uncle was a super genius at MIT?
        I doubt my knowledge would kill 100k
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          It also says he kept his weight on him for almost three minutes after he was unresponsive, so I wouldn't be so convinced.
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          • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
            By the way, everyone who is freaked out by the decision to charge the cop with 3rd degree murder rather than 2nd degree murder, the sentence the guy is going to get would be the same anyway, unless they could show intent to murder.

            People get all hung up on the maximum sentence and minimum sentence language in the statutes, but it doesn't work that way. There are specific sentencing guidelines and it's really hard to depart from them.

            Here is the sentencing grid, and both are level 10.

            https://mn.gov/msgc-stat/documents/G...andardGrid.pdf


            If anyone is still skeptical, have them check with Handy's relatives.
            Honest question...are people legit freaking out? I didn't think twice about it when I read it.
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            • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              Honest question...are people legit freaking out? I didn't think twice about it when I read it.
              There are, but not on here. I've brought it up, but freaking out would be a stretch. But I also don't necessarily think Hovey is calling out people here.
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              • Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                There are, but not on here. I've brought it up, but freaking out would be a stretch.
                Interesting.

                I don't think the autopsy guarantees an acquittal but it backs up the idiotic statement Freeman made yesterday.
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                  Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                  Interesting.

                  I don't think the autopsy guarantees an acquittal but it backs up the idiotic statement Freeman made yesterday.
                  I'd bet you can get a hung jury with a marginally intelligent defense attorney now. Only need one.
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                  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                    Do we even know what the complaints against the cop were? .
                    To be honest I know less than nothing. I admit I was just extrapolating a worst-case guess based on a couple of headlines I scrolled past, for the pleasure of winding up Minnesotans. I feel bad now. But in my defense, Klobuchar is also a bad person and should not have supervisory power over anyone.
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                    • Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                      There are, but not on here. I've brought it up, but freaking out would be a stretch. But I also don't necessarily think Hovey is calling out people here.
                      Yeah I haven’t seen anyone bent out of shape here but I know a lot of people are tuned into other media so I thought I’d post it.

                      Also, I never suspected Floyd died of asphyxiation or strangulation. People are too tied to the “I can’t breathe” plea. I wouldn’t be surprised if the knee cut off flow of blood to the brain.
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                        So many rumors, hard to tell what has legs. But a lot of organizers are pleading for everyone to obey curfew tonight, as supposedly a lot of armed white supremacists plan to try and burn more businesses tonight .

                        My friends working aid on lake said they observed multiple white supremacy groups throwing explosives and trying to cause destruction.

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                        • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                          So many rumors, hard to tell what has legs. But a lot of organizers are pleading for everyone to obey curfew tonight, as supposedly a lot of armed white supremacists plan to try and burn more businesses tonight .

                          My friends working aid on lake said they observed multiple white supremacy groups throwing explosives and trying to cause destruction.
                          I’m curious how they found out who they are. Do you see pics of anything that identifies ideology? My Trumpy friend said the white people in the pics are “Antifa terrorists” but I assume that was just wishful thinking.
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                          • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                            Also, I never suspected Floyd died of asphyxiation or strangulation. People are too tied to the “I can’t breathe” plea. I wouldn’t be surprised if the knee cut off flow of blood to the brain.
                            Me neither. I mean I didn't rule it out, but was never convinced it was what did it. To me the smoking gun is his repeated cries for his life, and the officer continuing to keep his weight on his neck for almost three minutes after he goes unresponsive.
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                            • Originally posted by bronconick View Post


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                              • Originally posted by geezer View Post
                                I’m curious how they found out who they are. Do you see pics of anything that identifies ideology? My Trumpy friend said the white people in the pics are “Antifa terrorists” but I assume that was just wishful thinking.
                                No, I actually have it on my list to ask her how she knew. She’s not someone who would throw that label around so I think there had to be some signifier

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