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  • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

    Originally posted by burd View Post
    Other than reading whatever source you read on the subject, do you have experience prosecuting cops?
    Does anybody who posts out here have experience as a prosecutor? That would be a fascinating perspective.

    Oh, and just to warn you ahead of time if you do, Handy still knows more about the subject than you!
    Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

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    • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

      I don't think it was up to Frey either. I think Walz made him ceremoniously sign the order.
      the state of hockey is good

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      • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

        Originally posted by burd View Post
        Other than reading whatever source you read on the subject, do you have experience prosecuting cops?
        I have enough lawyers in my family (and former lawyers) to know he is absolutely right.

        It isnt like you need to do a lot of research to find evidence of it. A simple Google search will find you probably 2 dozen cases of cops caught red handed killing or assaulting people and they might not even lose their job let alone go to prison. Philandro Castillo was shot ON FACEBOOK LIVE and the cop didnt go to Prison. Rodney King was beaten by 4 cops on video shown on TVs around the world for months and LA couldnt convict them. Juries do not like convicting cops, and prosecutors that go after cops have a very rough go of it.

        That is why you need an impartial Justice Department to use their authority and impartiality to look into this...not one run by racist incompetents who couldnt be trusted to take the garbage out let alone prosecute violations of civil liberties.
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        • Originally posted by burd View Post
          Other than reading whatever source you read on the subject, do you have experience prosecuting cops?
          You know the answer to that...so feel free to rip me and be a dick doing it.
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          • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

            Originally posted by Rover View Post
            Does anybody who posts out here have experience as a prosecutor? That would be a fascinating perspective.

            Oh, and just to warn you ahead of time if you do, Handy still knows more about the subject than you!
            Literally everyone knows more about a whole host of subjects than you Rover. And unlike you Rover we actually read what people write and then formulate an argument based on that. I know reading isnt your thing so I think we are maybe just a bit too mean to you.

            I dont know more than others...even when I am playing the arrogant troll (who...spoilers...is based on YOU! ) I dont pretend I know more about subjects. Me speaking about things I have experienced or learned doesnt mean I know more, that is me adding to the conversation. Again, not your forte, but what that is is when two people talk back and forth and arent fighting or spitting at each other and are both actively listening and trying to learn from said conversation. Dont always agree, in fact I might not like the other person at all, but the dialogue is the important part.

            Now in contrast you basically shout the same 5-7 things over and over and over and over again. The argument almost never has anything to do with what is actually being discussed, or at best is a tangent of said conversation. You deride everyone, listen to no one and declare yourself the victor when literally no one is even competing with you. Sometimes your trolling is fun, but most of the time it is rather tired and repetitive and is closer to bot level lame. Even when you are actually an authority on a subject you still somehow find ways to screw up the argument enough to be wrong. It is truly astounding to watch and I know most around here find it massively entertaining

            I will say though...even when everyone on all sides of an argument tell you you are wrong you stick to your guns and keep hoping the 25th time is the charm. You are kind of like Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke...you just wont stay down no matter how much George Kennedy beats you to a pulp. Perhaps what we have here is a failure to communicate

            tl;dr: I fed your ego by responding so you can go away now
            Last edited by Handyman; 05-29-2020, 04:20 PM.
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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            • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

              Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
              I don't think it was up to Frey either. I think Walz made him ceremoniously sign the order.
              That would be my guess as well. Walz is not pleased he needed to take over.
              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
              -aparch

              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
              -INCH

              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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              • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

                Handy for someone who likes to troll you sure do have a glass jaw! I do wonder though for all your self admitted expertise in all things why you choose to work for chump change teaching remedial English in reform school to a bunch of bored 7th graders.

                Now kindly go back to telling us how you have the wisdom and experience of a real life DA Adam Schiff from the original Law & Order show because a couple of your distant relatives used to work the ambulance chasing circuit back in the 70's. This should be almost as good as when you had the knowledge to pull down 10M a year as a major bank executive due to your ability to navigate the drive up teller window on several occasions.
                Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

                  Wow...that was sad even for you. Please tell me you arent actually thinking when you type this tripe out. Even trixie was more on point than you

                  But, since your testosterone count apparently needs it, I am quitting this cat fight you seem hellbent on winning. You may declare yourself the victor and brag to all of USCHO about it! It was a truly amazing effort...they shall sing songs of your masterful ability to be so bad at something people quit just to get you to shut up
                  "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                  -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                  • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

                    Originally posted by burd View Post
                    Other than reading whatever source you read on the subject, do you have experience prosecuting cops?
                    I think the rules are that if you play the "...if you've never done it you can't comment on it" card, you automatically lose the thread. Besides, if internet forums were not make up of people posting things about which they know anywhere from 0% to 100% internet forums would cease to exist.

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                    • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      Wow...that was sad even for you. Please tell me you arent actually thinking when you type this tripe out. Even trixie was more on point than you

                      But, since your testosterone count apparently needs it, I am quitting this cat fight you seem hellbent on winning. You may declare yourself the victor and brag to all of USCHO about it! It was a truly amazing effort...they shall sing songs of your masterful ability to be so bad at something people quit just to get you to shut up
                      Sounds good Handy. I'm outta here from some takeout and some bourbon anyway.
                      Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                      Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                      "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                      • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

                        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        I have enough lawyers in my family (and former lawyers) to know he is absolutely right.
                        Maybe, but I've got a shytload of MDs and engineers in my tree, and I don't know the first thing about either of them. I have no problem conceding that you probably learn a lot quicker than I do though.

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                        • Originally posted by burd View Post
                          Maybe, but I've got a shytload of MDs and engineers in my tree, and I don't know the first thing about either of them. I have no problem conceding that you probably learn a lot quicker than I do though.
                          Well yeah you are from NoDak and live in Wisconsin. I believe they just got 56k dial up in both those places

                          Btw last night I mentioned (for those that were up) that I had a connection to what was going on. My cousins shop was looted and pretty much destroyed. At first my mother told me he was the one who shot the looter but I corrected her quickly through some research. I used to work at another shop of his back in the day he is well liked in the community. (or at least was). Sucks. I doubt he recovers.
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                          -INCH

                          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                          -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            I have enough lawyers in my family (and former lawyers) to know he is absolutely right.
                            Kind of like how Trump “really gets this” Covid stuff because his uncle was a super genius at MIT?

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                            • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
                              You know the answer to that...so feel free to rip me and be a dick doing it.
                              Burd is a lot of things, being from Wisconsin and all, but a dick generally ain’t one of them

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                              • Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

                                By the way, everyone who is freaked out by the decision to charge the cop with 3rd degree murder rather than 2nd degree murder, the sentence the guy is going to get would be the same anyway, unless they could show intent to murder.

                                People get all hung up on the maximum sentence and minimum sentence language in the statutes, but it doesn't work that way. There are specific sentencing guidelines and it's really hard to depart from them.

                                Here is the sentencing grid, and both are level 10.

                                https://mn.gov/msgc-stat/documents/G...andardGrid.pdf


                                If anyone is still skeptical, have them check with Handy's relatives.
                                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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