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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sol Diablo View Post
    I guess I can rag on, but it gets irritating to me to have people say over & over your arena isn't good enough to meet conference standards, how you should pay for budget poor schools to travel & play you, how you get a break in pairwise because you don't play conference championships, how you get a break in pairwise because you only schedule mediocre teams, how your team is made up of goons with no finesse nor speed, your team plays across 4 time zones numerous times but too bad the favor can't be returned,how your team should pay higher conference entrance fees because they are a P5 school, which is corrupt, part of the corrupt. I guess I can rag on. Maybe the teams that got dumped on by WCHA should have ragged on a bit more.
    I hate to break it to you but college hockey isn’t known for having fans who think outside the box. Plus ASU offers a value prop that no other team in the sport can offer, and that threatens some of the traditionalists. You’ll be just fine in the long run. UNLV will hear a lot of the same noise if/when they get going.
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    • #32
      Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

      Originally posted by Sol Diablo View Post
      Inflation corrected tuition is the same as in the 1970's.
      You could be correct on the remainder.
      What's your source for that? This ran counter to everything that I've read over the last 10 years, so I did a quick search, and it looks like the rate of tuition increases is 2X that of inflation:

      https://www.in2013dollars.com/Colleg...rice-inflation

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      • #33
        Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

        Originally posted by DavidNardolillo View Post
        This article reaches a different conclusion--inflation-adjusted tuition levels are still 2 to 3 times higher than in 1969: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/avera...122000732.html . I think it is also relevant that the cost of attendance for many schools has grown to well exceed the caps on federally subsidized student loans during that period. My only point is that I am not sure there is room for tuition to grow much further in the current environment, even pre-covid, which will necessarily impact hockey expansion and athletic spending.
        I see that you've already replied. I should have specified that I was trying to make roughly the same point: tuition in general is overpriced, and universities are going to be forced to hold or lower tuition in the future, or see enrollment plummet. That can only add to the financial difficulties that universities are facing.

        I know that at the DII and DIII levels, football is viewed by universities as a way to increase enrollment/lure male students to attend. Not sure that works at Divison 1 for hockey though. My thought being could there be some (albeit remote) hope that a group of geographically closer smaller schools try to mimic the early Atlantic Hockey model, or go no scholarships, and view the sport as a way to get some more bodies on campus?

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        • #34
          Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

          Originally posted by Sol Diablo View Post
          But it's got to be done if you want D1 hockey to grow. Gotta prime the pump. If you don't care about college hockey growth, about more opportunities for kids, about improved competition, then don't travel. Obviously has to be balanced with budgets and maybe a D1aa division makes sense for those with limited finances?
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          • #35
            Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

            Originally posted by Sol Diablo View Post
            Kind of like ASU now having 12 home games & 20 road after HC reneged on their return trip ASU games.
            Yes, HC not traveling to AZ this season is on them. It's not the first time in the history of hockey games had to be moved to another season. And it's not like missing two home games against HC is going to destroy your budget for the year. Ticket sales is not what is paying the bills for ASU's hockey program. Get on the phone with LIU. I'm sure they are available.

            As for the rest of the games and where they are played, you guys make your own schedule. If you don't want 20 road games, don't schedule 20 road games. It's the dream scenario. Just sit back and wait for teams to sign up for games in AZ. Some teams in the WCHA just lost four games on their schedule with UAH's departure (Tech included in that list). But since they are in a conference, the league steps in and fixes the problem. As an independent you control your own destiny but you also have to solve your own problems. Gotta take the bad with the good. If you want a stable, balanced slate of home/road games every season, tell your staff to use the now open weekend to fill out and submit conference applications.
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            • #36
              Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

              Originally posted by Sol Diablo View Post
              I guess I can rag on, but it gets irritating to me to have people say over & over your arena isn't good enough to meet conference standards, how you should pay for budget poor schools to travel & play you, how you get a break in pairwise because you don't play conference championships, how you get a break in pairwise because you only schedule mediocre teams, how your team is made up of goons with no finesse nor speed, your team plays across 4 time zones numerous times but too bad the favor can't be returned,how your team should pay higher conference entrance fees because they are a P5 school, which is corrupt, part of the corrupt. I guess I can rag on. Maybe the teams that got dumped on by WCHA should have ragged on a bit more.
              It must be nice to roll through life with the budgetary understanding of a second-semester sophomore marketing major.

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              • #37
                Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                CHN article: Huntsville's Corbett Worked At It to the Very End

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                • #38
                  Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                  I Know I'm a Goofball, But I Work My But Off should be the title of Mike Corbett's biography.

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                  • #39
                    Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                    Originally posted by Happy View Post
                    Sorry to see them go.
                    Was on my list of road trips. Long list not short.

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                    • #40
                      Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                      Boosters and Alumni have made a last ditch effort to save the team by this Friday. A GoFundMe has been started, and they have already raised $34,000.

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                      • #41
                        Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                        Seems highly unlikely but good luck to them!

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                        • #42
                          Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                          Hope it works, have always admired UAH's program #GoChargers
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                          • #43
                            Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                            It seems unlikely that they will get to the goal of $1M.
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                            • #44
                              Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                              I donated. I hope also that it makes a difference.
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                              • #45
                                Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

                                They are currently at $72K even though it hasn't been very long. There's a non-zero chance they reach the goal

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