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  • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

    https://miro.medium.com/max/1276/0*N5wpCW2E63ym50wd
    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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    • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

      Originally posted by aparch View Post
      Also because some states are lumping the antibody test results in with the viral test results.
      And cause we're the third largest country in the world population wise. And no one believes China or India's numbers.

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      • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

        If you believe China, Texas, or Florida's numbers, call me because I've got a Republican healthcare plan to sell you!

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        • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

          Just skimming past posts:

          I LOVE the MN State Fair, but it should not happen.
          Some restaurants/bars were prepping to open indoors, including using plastic/plexiglass between tables on TOP of having the 6 feet separation, that sort of thing.
          Just because you CAN be open, doesn't mean you HAVE to be open. If you're going to lose money (or be less profitable; there is a difference) by opening, then stay closed (and there are some who will do this).
          Also, just because you CAN go out, doesn't mean you have to. I know a few people who won't eat out on the patio of a place, because they feel not safe. That's fine, also.
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          • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

            Mookie’s neighborhood co-op shut down yesterday. 4 employees tested +
            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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              "I'm so excited!" exclaimed Kal-Ho bartender Deborah Galea, who'd been audibly counting down the minutes to opening. "I haven't served a drink in over two months!"
              Aww, poor you.

              "I'm happy that folks are not living in fear anymore and starting to move on with their lives," Goodwin, a grocery store worker, said. "This whole pandemic crap is starting to wear me thin. I believe that this virus is real. I do. But at the same time, we can't keep living like this. Our economy is crashing because of it and I can't deal with it anymore and I'm glad that folks are starting to reopen."
              Well, with logic like that...

              "Drinking at home is kind of sad," Sivley, who works at a nearby factory, said with a laugh. "So I'm out here tonight because I'd love to grab a beer and at the same time just get out of the shell a little bit."
              Countdown to his second or third DUI in 5, 4, 3...

              "I'm 61 years old," Schwartz said. "I've been working all my life and it seems like (Whitmer) is trying to take that all away from me. If you want to know the truth, I'd rather die of (COVID-19) than start all over."

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              • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                My county has not had a Covid death in 5 weeks and only one new confirmed case in the last week. But with our SIP order gone and part of Wisconsin Dells being in the county, the next two or three months have the potential to be bad news.

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                • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                  The hard thing I see in many of the responses is the admission that this is all real, but we have to just go on- as if sacrificing people for the sake of anything is ok because we all need to make money. Again, "government" should be capable of making up what people need as a core while things are shut down- and that's been the intention of the relief packages. So while people may not be making money selling a drink at a bar, they still should be getting a living.

                  Which means we should not just accept people dying for the sake of serving a drink. Or selling an outfit. Or whatever. And while we russians are ok with corporate welfare, making sure people keep the base economy running is socialism. Except that real socialism is the ones who keep companies afloat....

                  Ugh.

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                  • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                    Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                    Again, "government" should be capable of making up what people need as a core while things are shut down- and that's been the intention of the relief packages. So while people may not be making money selling a drink at a bar, they still should be getting a living.
                    They've been told for 40 years that any government assistance, even temporarily during crisis management, is T3h Devil!1!11!! and that accepting it would make them weak and less free. That's not going to change now.

                    Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                    Which means we should not just accept people dying for the sake of serving a drink. Or selling an outfit. Or whatever. And while we russians are ok with corporate welfare, making sure people keep the base economy running is socialism. Except that real socialism is the ones who keep companies afloat....

                    Ugh.
                    I don't have to wear a mask on someone else's private property though, because muh freedumb!

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                    • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                      But I came here to actually post a more hopeful question...

                      Just saw an F1 promotion video showing how they are contributing to the healthcare industry with supplies to help. And I know my company it out there doing the same thing- is planned to make 50K ventilators a month in June/july.

                      What I see from those efforts is many different ways to do the same thing. Which is actually really good. The question I have is- is there anyone out there evaluating each design to determine the best one? By best- I mean meets the requirements, meets those requirements in the most robust manner, meets those requirements with the least waste (aka, as few one time use things as possible), and then meets all of those requirements but can be made in very high volume and at low cost.

                      Like I work in the auto industry, and the parts we are using in ventilators are auto grade parts, but are separated from the patient by a HEPA filter so they end up being medical grade. And the interactive display is the same one that you have in the nav systems on new cars. On a relative basis, these are cheap parts, and common, and easy to assemble, and easy to maintain.

                      So I was just wondering who is going over all of those designs to come up with a new industry standard to be better in all aspects, especially cost.

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                      • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                        Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                        But I came here to actually post a more hopeful question...

                        Just saw an F1 promotion video showing how they are contributing to the healthcare industry with supplies to help. And I know my company it out there doing the same thing- is planned to make 50K ventilators a month in June/july.

                        What I see from those efforts is many different ways to do the same thing. Which is actually really good. The question I have is- is there anyone out there evaluating each design to determine the best one? By best- I mean meets the requirements, meets those requirements in the most robust manner, meets those requirements with the least waste (aka, as few one time use things as possible), and then meets all of those requirements but can be made in very high volume and at low cost.

                        Like I work in the auto industry, and the parts we are using in ventilators are auto grade parts, but are separated from the patient by a HEPA filter so they end up being medical grade. And the interactive display is the same one that you have in the nav systems on new cars. On a relative basis, these are cheap parts, and common, and easy to assemble, and easy to maintain.

                        So I was just wondering who is going over all of those designs to come up with a new industry standard to be better in all aspects, especially cost.
                        I assume things like ventilators, at least to the extent they are used for medical care, are subject (normally) to review by the FDA.

                        I don't know that the FDA operates in a way to determine which design is the best and then declares that the industry standard. I assume for devices like ventilators they have certain standards the device must meet (and I have no idea what those might be) and if your design meets them, then it doesn't really matter what it looks like or what is used to construct it, you're free to enter it into the marketplace. I think that scrutiny might even involve things like looking at manufacturing facilities or labs, which raised some concern when we were about to ask companies like car manufacturers to start manufacturing medical equipment.

                        One thing that I think we need to keep an eye on in the current times (besides the fact that the current admin overseas the FDA) is that I seem to recall reading some stories where the feds have said that in these emergency conditions products could be brought into the marketplace without going through all of the scrutiny normally applied. In other words, some sort of "fast track" simply because we needed masks and ventilators and so on. I'm not 100% certain about that, but I thought I saw a story about that somewhere, and I suppose that makes a bit of sense if we suddenly start asking Ford motor company or someone to make ventilators.
                        That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                        • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                          Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                          I assume things like ventilators, at least to the extent they are used for medical care, are subject (normally) to review by the FDA.

                          I don't know that the FDA operates in a way to determine which design is the best and then declares that the industry standard. I assume for devices like ventilators they have certain standards the device must meet (and I have no idea what those might be) and if your design meets them, then it doesn't really matter what it looks like or what is used to construct it, you're free to enter it into the marketplace. I think that scrutiny might even involve things like looking at manufacturing facilities or labs, which raised some concern when we were about to ask companies like car manufacturers to start manufacturing medical equipment.

                          One thing that I think we need to keep an eye on in the current times (besides the fact that the current admin overseas the FDA) is that I seem to recall reading some stories where the feds have said that in these emergency conditions products could be brought into the marketplace without going through all of the scrutiny normally applied. In other words, some sort of "fast track" simply because we needed masks and ventilators and so on. I'm not 100% certain about that, but I thought I saw a story about that somewhere, and I suppose that makes a bit of sense if we suddenly start asking Ford motor company or someone to make ventilators.
                          The FDA just evaluates if they work correctly or not. Flow, pressure, temp, humidity, safety, etc. Like any other agency, they don't care about the cost and how much effort it takes to assemble. It's like the EPA allowing both for a cheap Hyundai and an expensive Ferrari- they do the same thing in the eyes of the basic requirements.

                          Someone in the industry would be the ones deciding which design is best that it meets all of the requirements and it the lest cost to make and operate. Some of these designs may only meet the quick requirements for an emergency, but I'm betting that many of them also meet the long term requirements. So will someone be examining all of the designs to determine that we can go forward with a $1000 unit instead of a $10,000 unit?

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                          • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                            Kalkaska has got to be up there in news stories per capita. I swear they get more coverage than Traverse City.
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                            • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                              Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                              Kalkaska has got to be up there in news stories per capita. I swear they get more coverage than Traverse City.
                              I can't figure out why there aren't more news stories about Alpena. The whole NE side (everything north of Standish and east of I-75) is our equivalent of "Florida Man".

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                              • Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

                                Alaska is opening up fully today though there’s still a mandatory two week quarantine for travelers into the state.

                                Not sure how I feel about this. Our numbers have been pretty steady and dropping (if they’re honest) and if the mandatory travel quarantine works we should be ok.

                                That said I’m still not going out to eat or anything like that.
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