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  • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    So we have to make it more profitable for the Plutes to put down the coup than go along with it. The way to do that is massive withdrawal from the economy, at every level. Do the 35% have the onions to do that?
    No. They don't.

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    • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

      Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
      No. They don't.
      Let's hope they do because I do not know whether 25% of the population in the streets, 40% backed by their wackadoodle god-emperor screaming to murder them, and 35% just trying to keep their head down and put food on the table, will be enough to stop the machine.

      Now add that once violence erupts, most likely from the 40%, the 35% are going to want it to stop ASAP, no matter what that entails. Nobody wants bombs being tossed about and the vast majority of all human beings in all times has preferred "a thousand years of tyranny to one night of chaos." So the right can get what it wants by becoming violent, which is its dearest fantasy anyway.
      Last edited by Kepler; 05-20-2020, 10:22 AM.
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      • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        I believe those percentages are accurate. And the sad thing is that 40% that are locked in is the biggest number. And that's been the problem every election cycle since 1980.
        That's my fear. Part of the 35% are just too apathetic to vote. Part of the 25% have given up on the system because for much of the existence of our country the system has hurt the 99% and helped the 1%, and that string has been mostly unbroken since the 1970s and they no longer participate in what they believe to be (and in some ways is) a corrupt, morally evil system. But that 40% seems bound and determined to ruin the country.

        More than ever before the future hinges on turnout for an election that will likely be happening in the middle of the worst health crisis the world has ever faced (this fall is going to be exponentially worse than the last 2 months have been). And as Kep wondered about, what might happen if the good guys DO win in November and trump and the MAGAts refuse to accept the results? Does trump's Senate do the right thing or do they throw gasoline on the fire?

        If you are not literally scared for the future of this country, you are either evil or you are not paying attention. I don't see any other way of looking at it.

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        • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

          Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          That's my fear. Part of the 35% are just too apathetic to vote.
          In the scenario I am positing they do vote, in a landslide, for Biden and the Dems, but the GOP simply cheats nakedly and wholesale. They either nullify the election or more likely simply announce their own utterly made up results with a thin rationale justifying them canceling or altering millions of ballots. Their argument are accepted and rebroadcast on Fox and Hate Radio and elected Republicans and their punditry go on the offensive accusing us of the very fraud they are perpetuating.

          That could happen in November. The right is no longer a democratic entity, it is a criminal enterprise with a terrorist arm.

          So what happens if they do that? What can we do, and more importantly what can we do right now to prepare?
          Last edited by Kepler; 05-20-2020, 10:36 AM.
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          • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

            Originally posted by rufus View Post
            Oooooooh. Obamagate. Sounds serious.

            This is a "rebuttal" I saw elsewhere regarding that tweet. fwiw:

            It’s called cover.

            She publicly denied she knew about the investigation and unmasking and the we get this email?? :lol:

            Rice has lost all credibility:



            Also, Clapper ****ed up when he briefed Obama and Rice. They were not supposed to know some of the classified material Comey’s team had. That’s why Rice wrote the memo to herself (who does that?), to protect her and Obama.

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            • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

              That’s why Rice wrote the memo to herself (who does that?), to protect her and Obama.
              *raises hand* I do. I have also retained every email I have ever sent from my corporate email (eight years worth (as a field tech, email is infrequent)). But it has saved my *ss and my company's *ss a couple times.


              Once, in particular, a resident engineer had me lined up square with the bus he was gonna throw me under for his incompetence because "I never told him of a utility conflict with a critical high pressure natural gas line," for a project I was on with him for six months, that he was struggling to close out.

              Two emails from my archive forwarded to my boss later, and that RE was suddenly looking at a letter from HR asking for him to quit or he was going to be fired.


              It's called cover-your-*ss and document everything.
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              • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                This is a "rebuttal" I saw elsewhere regarding that tweet.
                "Why would you have a receipt unless you were covering up a theft?"
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                • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                  Originally posted by aparch View Post
                  *raises hand* I do. I have also retained every email I have ever sent from my corporate email (eight years worth (as a field tech, email is infrequent)). But it has saved my *ss and my company's *ss a couple times.


                  Once, in particular, a resident engineer had me lined up square with the bus he was gonna throw me under for his incompetence because "I never told him of a utility conflict with a critical high pressure natural gas line," for a project I was on with him for six months, that he was struggling to close out.

                  Two emails from my archive forwarded to my boss later, and that RE was suddenly looking at a letter from HR asking for him to quit or he was going to be fired.


                  It's called cover-your-*ss and document everything.
                  I do that and I *do* get a lot of email. Current archive file goes back to 2016, and I have 66,004 emails in it. That's an average of 40 per day, 7 days a week for 4.5 years.

                  So worth it to have the archive.

                  Edit: fixed math
                  If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                  • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                    Originally posted by aparch View Post
                    *raises hand* I do. I have also retained every email I have ever sent from my corporate email (eight years worth (as a field tech, email is infrequent)). But it has saved my *ss and my company's *ss a couple times.


                    Once, in particular, a resident engineer had me lined up square with the bus he was gonna throw me under for his incompetence because "I never told him of a utility conflict with a critical high pressure natural gas line," for a project I was on with him for six months, that he was struggling to close out.

                    Two emails from my archive forwarded to my boss later, and that RE was suddenly looking at a letter from HR asking for him to quit or he was going to be fired.


                    It's called cover-your-*ss and document everything.
                    This is why I never task or perform a baseline-changing action unless it's against a timestamped artifact in my company's database of record. And yes it has saved my reputation, and maybe my job, at least once.

                    It doesn't even have to be protection against malfeasance as in your example. People honestly forget, or get confused, especially when personnel changes and time passes.

                    You kids out there: always use protection.
                    Last edited by Kepler; 05-20-2020, 11:59 AM.
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                    • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                      Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                      I do that and I *do* get a lot of email. Current archive file goes back to 2016, and I have 66,004 emails in it. That's an average of 40 per day, 7 days a week for 4.5 years.

                      So worth it to have the archive.

                      Edit: fixed math
                      Just wait until it corrupts and you find out auto archive hasn't worked since 2013.
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                      • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                        My previous employer had a 21 day window to archive an email or lose it forever. I hated that. I received anywhere from 50 to 100 emails a day, Monday-Friday, and another couple dozen over the weekends. Every now and again, I would forget to archive one and a couple of times I was saved when either the sender or another recipient did archive it. When I left that job last August I had around 100,000 emails saved. I never bothered to set up any kind of auto-save options.

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                        • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                          Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                          I never bothered to set up any kind of auto-save options.
                          I think I've found your problem.
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                          • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                            ...I never bothered to set up any kind of auto-save options.
                            If you get a call from 202-456-1414, it's up to you to answer. They might be calling to hire you for your lackadaisical approach to file keeping.
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                            • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

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                              • Re: POTUS 45.64: Governance By Unhinged Twitter Rants

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                I think I've found your problem.
                                The actual problem was that 90% of my union members sat in front of computers most of the day and it was easy to send an email. Well that and my clear stupidity!

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