Covfefe-19 Part 9: Shelter In Place is Temporary, but Wu-Tang is Forever

[Kepler]

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The word "genius" gets thrown around. It is almost never justified.

This is genius. I hope it becomes their tradition.

[Kepler]

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The Onion is a national treasure.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Maybe the local sheriffs, who probably know most of these people, aren't interested in creating a shoot out situation where one would not otherwise exist.

There was an incident 35-40 years ago that is still infamous in North Dakota, but probably unknown elsewhere. A decorated WWII veteran in his 60's, who was also a farmer, decided the US government no longer had the right to insist he pay taxes, so he stopped. He would get together with his wife, his kids, and a handful of other local friends, they'd bring all of their guns and they'd meet in a local veterinarian's office, talk about how they are all sovereign citizens, then go to Sunday brunch and go home. For years they bothered no one.

The feds prosecuted this farmer for not filing a tax return and he went to jail for a few months. Then, when he got out, he resumed his old ways.

The feds decided it was time to bring him in on a parole violation, and they decided to arrest him during one of the "meetings," when all of his armed friends and family members were there. The local police and sheriff were aghast, and told the feds that if they waited one day, they could walk into the local cafe and arrest this guy without incident, and without the guy having any guns or armed friends around.

Of course, the feds have never met a dik measuring contest that they didn't like, so they ignored the "local yokel" advice. End result? Bunch of dead and wounded law enforcement officers. Because the guy didn't want to file his tax return.

But yeah, I get it. You want these people gunned down because you disagree with their politics and you just don't like them. By all means, lets provoke more shoot outs. After all, they are insisting that bars and restaurants re-open. A shoot out seems a small price to pay to put that rebellion down.

My dad went to high school with Scott Faul. I think you are missing a lot of your story here.

[alfablue]

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And that is just the beginning. The Red States will mandate waiting longer in a few weeks when this crap blows up in their face. (hiding the numbers wont work well it will come out eventually just like it did in Flo(R)ida)

Half the public doesnt care anymore...the life cycle of COVID is dying when it comes to the average shlub giving a phuck. The country has quit just like their moron President. They dont care that we are adding 20k cases a day and 1500-2000 deaths unless it is someone they know. (like my student who is going back to the hospital today for at least the third time) They dont care that probably 90-95%% of the country hasnt even got the antibodies because they were exposed yet...they want to be able to sit at a bar and drink watered down **** beer and eat super fatty appetizers while watching sports. They dont care if you have to die to get it they want it and they want it now!

Oh and they also dont want nurses to get hazard pay even though their fat lazy slob *** is on unemployment. **** them and **** anyone who defends them.

Yea, we are on our own. And one has to hope that the people you work for is actually taking it seriously, as that's the only way that this is going to end.

BTW, it's going to be easy to cover this up- I have heard that people think this ravaged Moscow ID early in Feb- quite a few people died with an odd sickness, And nobody heard about it at all. This would have been easily traced to the start in Washington....

Nobody cares about additional pneumonia deaths, even at 4-5x normal when the only change has been covid. So increasing that to 6-7x normal will be easy to hide.

The sad thing is that the international travel industry is going to be ravaged- as other countries will continue to prevent people from the US to travel there- and IMHO, they would be right. I would even question letting cruise ships in through the Caribbean. It's finally time to find a replacement for tourism.

[burd]

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My dad went to high school with Scott Faul. I think you are missing a lot of your story here.

James Corcoran, whom I knew during undergrad years, wrote "Bitter Harvest" about it.

[rufus]

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Honest question here, what's the true number of "new cases" versus "number of cases discovered due to increased testing"? I'm guessing we'll probably never really know, but are there guesses out there in the scientific community?

There is so much data and so many different models and such...one gets lost and starts cherry picking, IMO.

Every case discovered by testing is a "new case". What the **** is the ****ing difference? We aren't testing at a considerably higher level than we have been for the past two months. That's why the number of new cases isn't growing considerably faster, it's just plateauing at around the 24-30,000 level every day.

The question you should be asking is for every "new case" we're finding out about by testing, how many other cases that we don't know about are out there?

You sound like Dimwit Donnie and his "if we didn't test, there wouldn't be any cases". No, there'd be the same number of cases. Just now you know about them.

[rufus]

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Kayleigh McEnany begins the press briefing with some show and tell, dismissing the pandemic response plan left by Obama for Trump as a "thin packet of paper." pic.twitter.com/3d8JaQmqnQ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 15, 2020

"Which we then ignored also".

[rufus]

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The word "genius" gets thrown around. It is almost never justified.

This is genius. I hope it becomes their tradition.

That's mah town.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Every case discovered by testing is a "new case". What the **** is the ****ing difference? We aren't testing at a considerably higher level than we have been for the past two months. That's why the number of new cases isn't growing considerably faster, it's just plateauing at around the 24-30,000 level every day.

The question you should be asking is for every "new case" we're finding out about by testing, how many other cases that we don't know about are out there?

You sound like Dimwit Donnie and his "if we didn't test, there wouldn't be any cases". No, there'd be the same number of cases. Just now you know about them.

We’d know if we had widespread testing and tracing, of course.

[rufus]

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We’d know if we had widespread testing and tracing, of course.

And just how are we gonna pay for that? Let alone spend the time and effort to actually implement such a program. Eff off, you with your pipe dreams and fancy ideas. It's too hard.

America doesn't do "hard" anymore.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Super spreaders, if you will https://t.co/GtnZSQzpP7

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) May 16, 2020

[alfablue]

Super spreaders, if you will https://t.co/GtnZSQzpP7

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) May 16, 2020

This is why we need more protesting rallies where everyone is yelling as loud as they can.

Filter more people out. That’s what they want anyway.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

This is why we need more protesting rallies where everyone is yelling as loud as they can.

Filter more people out. That’s what they want anyway.

Trumps rallies will start soon.

I won’t feel a twinge of sadness when they are dying in droves.

[The Rube]

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Every case discovered by testing is a "new case". What the **** is the ****ing difference? We aren't testing at a considerably higher level than we have been for the past two months. That's why the number of new cases isn't growing considerably faster, it's just plateauing at around the 24-30,000 level every day.

The question you should be asking is for every "new case" we're finding out about by testing, how many other cases that we don't know about are out there?

You sound like Dimwit Donnie and his "if we didn't test, there wouldn't be any cases". No, there'd be the same number of cases. Just now you know about them.

That's the point. There are cases out there that we don't know about, so those cases already exist.
I'm wondering about the true spread rate of the virus. How fast is it really spreading vs us just finding out about the existing cases.

Is the spread rate worse, better, the same than what all the models are showing?

Yes, it would be great to have everyone tested, but the U.S. is screwing the pooch on that on right now.

[alfablue]

That's the point. There are cases out there that we don't know about, so those cases already exist.
I'm wondering about the true spread rate of the virus. How fast is it really spreading vs us just finding out about the existing cases.

Is the spread rate worse, better, the same than what all the models are showing?

Yes, it would be great to have everyone tested, but the U.S. is screwing the pooch on that on right now.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

That has been the underlying theme of these threads for a few months, now. Good to see you caught up.