Covfefe-19 Part 9: Shelter In Place is Temporary, but Wu-Tang is Forever

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Unless they need it...cause remember the Federal Stockpile is for *them* it is not for distributing to The States.
-Jared

“I take no responsibility”

“It’s all because of my help”

[Handyman]

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Sen. Rand Paul: "I don't think you're the end all. I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision."

Dr. Anthony Fauci: "I have never made myself out to be the end all and only voice in this. I'm a scientist, a physician and a public health official." pic.twitter.com/Nqlg3zOqn3

— CSPAN (@cspan) May 12, 2020

This time next week they will blame Fauci for why the Pandemic blew up and the Economy tanking...

Sadly I am only half kidding.

[UCBadger]

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To ignore the Navajo Nation is a denial of humanity and an acceptance of genocide. They deserve better. https://t.co/1cvEehr70P

— Rev Jesse Jackson Sr (@RevJJackson) May 12, 2020

Well that's embarrassing.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Sen. Rand Paul: "I don't think you're the end all. I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision."

Dr. Anthony Fauci: "I have never made myself out to be the end all and only voice in this. I'm a scientist, a physician and a public health official." pic.twitter.com/Nqlg3zOqn3

— CSPAN (@cspan) May 12, 2020

This time next week they will blame Fauci for why the Pandemic blew up and the Economy tanking...

Sadly I am only half kidding.

Dear Rand,

DIAF you ****.

Love, Scooby

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Check out this comparison between coronavirus impacts in South Korea and the United States. A very stark contrast. pic.twitter.com/GrrZmPozEk

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 12, 2020

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The Four Men Responsible For America’s COVID-19 Test Disaster

[alfablue]

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Another little rant.

I'm tired of people putting too much weight on A doctor they know. Like if your kid is a doctor, and they are telling you that masks are useless and even dangerous. Just because you think that all of this is hype.

First of all ONE opinion does not make science, it's just one persons opinion, even if it's partially educated. I'm an engineer, but I'm still allowed to disagree and be disagreed to ideas where the science is still developing.

Second- that one person isn't lying to you when they are giving you bad advice. Ok, maybe. But lets assume that they are just applying the info that they have. Telling you that isn't lying, it's just not complete or correct. It's tiring to have people tell you "my kid would never lie to me" when the rest of the science is telling you otherwise. They are not lying, they are just not fully informed.

Individual doctors get far too much weight on stuff, just because they are doctors. And that gets worse when their opinion is not the same direction of the rest of the field AND the science. (yes, I get that sometimes the one alternate opinion does fly in the face of science, and they end up being right, but that's not all that common). The idea that masks are not effective just because they are not N95 masks is flawed- lack of perfection does not mean it's not effective.

hm. I recall that argument being made for many other items.

Anyway, just wanted to rant that.

[alfablue]

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Maybe I should ask this in the resource page, but when I do a google search for mask materials, the results are not all that scientific.

Although there was one U of Illinois study that had real data for just two layers of cotton tshirt being 98%.

I’d like to find more data, but not sure how to google a search effectively.

[Kepler]

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UK with a bad day.

[WisconsinWildcard]

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Another little rant.

I'm tired of people putting too much weight on A doctor they know. Like if your kid is a doctor, and they are telling you that masks are useless and even dangerous. Just because you think that all of this is hype.

First of all ONE opinion does not make science, it's just one persons opinion, even if it's partially educated. I'm an engineer, but I'm still allowed to disagree and be disagreed to ideas where the science is still developing.

Second- that one person isn't lying to you when they are giving you bad advice. Ok, maybe. But lets assume that they are just applying the info that they have. Telling you that isn't lying, it's just not complete or correct. It's tiring to have people tell you "my kid would never lie to me" when the rest of the science is telling you otherwise. They are not lying, they are just not fully informed.

Individual doctors get far too much weight on stuff, just because they are doctors. And that gets worse when their opinion is not the same direction of the rest of the field AND the science. (yes, I get that sometimes the one alternate opinion does fly in the face of science, and they end up being right, but that's not all that common). The idea that masks are not effective just because they are not N95 masks is flawed- lack of perfection does not mean it's not effective.

hm. I recall that argument being made for many other items.

Anyway, just wanted to rant that.

Preach. People forget that most doctors are not scientists and many are, in fact, morons.

[rufus]

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Well that's embarrassing.

Like I said earlier, just wait til other nations ban travel to and from the US. A no-go zone.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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This time next week they will blame Fauci for why the Pandemic blew up and the Economy tanking...

Sadly I am only half kidding.

Yep, he's going to take the fall for all of it amongst the Dumpies. Hair Furor is only responsible for the approval ratings of governors who properly responded to this crisis, not for the failed federal response.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The Four Men Responsible For America’s COVID-19 Test Disaster

I will never understand how religious zealots become physicians. Attempting to hold the views of right-wing religious dogma vs. what scientific research has taught us in one's head at the same time would drive me absolutely insane. I would consider abstinence-only medical advice with regards to sex outside of a committed relationship to verge upon negligence and malpractice.

[Wayuphere]

Another little rant.

I'm tired of people putting too much weight on A doctor they know. Like if your kid is a doctor, and they are telling you that masks are useless and even dangerous. Just because you think that all of this is hype.

First of all ONE opinion does not make science, it's just one persons opinion, even if it's partially educated. I'm an engineer, but I'm still allowed to disagree and be disagreed to ideas where the science is still developing.

Second- that one person isn't lying to you when they are giving you bad advice. Ok, maybe. But lets assume that they are just applying the info that they have. Telling you that isn't lying, it's just not complete or correct. It's tiring to have people tell you "my kid would never lie to me" when the rest of the science is telling you otherwise. They are not lying, they are just not fully informed.

Individual doctors get far too much weight on stuff, just because they are doctors. And that gets worse when their opinion is not the same direction of the rest of the field AND the science. (yes, I get that sometimes the one alternate opinion does fly in the face of science, and they end up being right, but that's not all that common). The idea that masks are not effective just because they are not N95 masks is flawed- lack of perfection does not mean it's not effective.

hm. I recall that argument being made for many other items.

Anyway, just wanted to rant that.

You mean 2nd opinions? Of course.
What/whom are you referring to? Dr Fauci? He only is relaying info from his agency, of doctors. Definitely not a “one man only” source of medical guidance. Sorry if I misread your post.
I’d take his guidance over, say, my plumbers or Dr Trump......lol

[leswp1]

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I guess, short of shutting EVERYTHING down, minus health stuff...we need to proceed SLOWLY and as safely as we can.

I've read that there is no way to stop this without a vaccine, which isn't coming anytime soon, and we know from history what a Depression and a pandemic look like, as to the well being of humanity. We can slow it down, we can apparently still work, if arbitrarily deemed essential. That balancing act? It'll cost us. Don't care how you slice it, people will die.

So it's a matter of deciding where that line is. Best case, and it's still very depressing, the 50/50 split of people dying from the virus and people dying from economic downturn (health issues, suicide, starving, etc etc etc). This is anectdotal, but one of my great-grandmas died from results of The Depression, because her arteries were blocked from eating grisle from meat. She let NOTHING go to waste, b/c of The Depression. If you could eat it, you ate it. Period. She was that broke at the time. If she didn't have that hard-wired into her system...she probably had another 10-15 years in her.

First- gristle is connective tissue, not fat. Not what killed her. More likely it was malnutrition.

No. It is not 50/50. You can't unkill a person from the virus. You can make sure people have enough food, shelter and work on mental health issues.

I do not understand this impatient myopic view of problem solving. If everyone did what was needed things would be much better. Instead we have the idiots controlling the narrative and news cycles with silliness about not doing what as right with a badge for courage (stupidity)

And at the risk of being labeled a Socia****- We have enough money in this country if we were to stop thinking the company CEOs need more money for a bonus than it would take to run my town for the yr. We are a third world country when it comes to the social net because the people who are the most screwed buy into they should be screwed.

Lots of fundraising stuff on. I know I am supposed to look at that and get all the warm feels. I wish. It makes me totally disgusted. Sob stories with kids on TV begging for donations to fund what ever it is. WHat the hell kind of Great is this?