Covfefe-19 Part 9: Shelter In Place is Temporary, but Wu-Tang is Forever

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Thanks New Yorkers! Lol

“ New York City residents who fled lockdown orders and traveled around the U.S. are responsible for much of the spread of a second wave of coronavirus in the country, according to findings from scientists.”

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...nd-coronavirus

[Kepler]

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Thanks New Yorkers! Lol

“ New York City residents who fled lockdown orders and traveled around the U.S. are responsible for much of the spread of a second wave of coronavirus in the country, according to findings from scientists.”

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...nd-coronavirus

We created everything in the country; might as well destroy it, too.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Covfefe-19 Part 9: Shelter In Place is Temporary, but Wu-Tang is Forever

Thanks New Yorkers! Lol

“ New York City residents who fled lockdown orders and traveled around the U.S. are responsible for much of the spread of a second wave of coronavirus in the country, according to findings from scientists.”

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...nd-coronavirus

Figures.

[Drew S.]

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Thanks New Yorkers! Lol

“ New York City residents who fled lockdown orders and traveled around the U.S. are responsible for much of the spread of a second wave of coronavirus in the country, according to findings from scientists.”

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...nd-coronavirus

Remember when people were horrified by the idea of not letting people leave that area? There isn't much we haven't done wrong during this.

[Wayuphere]

Dump installed a donor as postmaster yesterday. USPS will be dead months before voting.

He’ll destroy it just to get at Amazon.(Bezos)

[Wayuphere]

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They wrote off the older crowd to the Trumpvirus, now it will be the kids.

Sick.

[Handyman]

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JUST IN: Military official who serves as Trump valet tests positive for coronavirus https://t.co/5Z22NCNKs7 pic.twitter.com/ECC0k6Sndo

— The Hill (@thehill) May 7, 2020

[Kepler]

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Hovey (and other reopeners), I'm genuinely and non-snarkily interested in what you think of this story.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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And Harvard says only 9 states should reopen because they are only ones equipped to test enough.

[SJHovey]

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Hovey (and other reopeners), I'm genuinely and non-snarkily interested in what you think of this story.

It's not surprising they've done it. It also won't surprise me if tomorrow, after getting some backlash, they re-implement it. There is nothing the administration could do where I would be surprised.

By the way, when did I become a "reopener?" Have I lobbied for any states to re-open? Have I posted one word in support of the protesters demanding that states re-open?

Again, I don't believe I owe a duty to you to stay home, yet as I've said repeatedly, I think staying home is a great idea for your own protection, and I've followed that practice now for going on two months.

I also strongly believe that when the pandemic is studied, years from now, they will conclude that we probably didn't react in the optimal fashion. We essentially have followed the same strategy we followed in 1918, which is after it appeared we had everyone wear masks and try to shelter in place. It didn't work great in 1918, and I don't think it's been particularly effective thus far. Now, what is the optimal strategy? I have no idea. I'm not sure anyone has.

I also believe strongly in letting each of the individual governors map out an appropriate strategy for their state and local communities, because not every state has the same situation or is in the same stage of the pandemic. This theory of local strategy and control was roundly pooh-poohed here, until Trump started issuing proclamations about what he thought should happen in the country.

But, as I've written before, I'm not interested in going to any bars or restaurants, I'm not interested in going to any concerts or ballgames. I don't think it would be a great idea right now, and my wife would kill me.

[Handyman]

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JUST IN: Trump offers Russia assistance as its coronavirus cases soar https://t.co/2Y5FG2eowt pic.twitter.com/iVHrthE7mG

— The Hill (@thehill) May 7, 2020

Good thing we have it under control here so we can help Russia...

[Scarlet]

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Again, I don't believe I owe a duty to you to stay home, yet as I've said repeatedly, I think staying home is a great idea for your own protection, and I've followed that practice now for going on two months.

Um, what???? How ****ing selfish is this?? I'm staying home because I could be an asymptomatic carrier and it would kill me (maybe even literally) if I went out and gave to someone. I almost started crying on the phone with my mother last night as I begged her to not go out. She said she was going to and not tell me. She's 85. I've been telling her I won't go into her apartment because I'm worried about transmitting something to her. It worries me when she goes out to take the trash out or get her mail.

You ABSOLUTELY owe it to me to stay home. I'm staying home for you and for others.

[Kepler]

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By the way, when did I become a "reopener?"

My impression is that you favor reopening in "careful" stages and then slowing down if there is another surge. I apologize if this is not correct.

As for staying home, that's not only for you. Decreasing the density of people in public places is how we starve the coronavirus and in doing so the control the COVID-19 disease.

You may not score the TD but you may throw the vital block for somebody else. We are a team.

[SJHovey]

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My impression is that you favor reopening in "careful" stages and then slowing down if there is another surge. I apologize if this is not correct.

I think that's Rube, but I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth.

It's not something that you have to apologize for, it's just been a case recently where some people assume that I advocate for certain positions because of statements I write on other issues.

I did write, a month or two ago, that I thought it was unrealistic to expect the entire country to agree to participate in shelter in place long-term, that by Memorial Day you were going to see rebellion against it. I was wrong, it didn't take until Memorial Day. I still believe that a widespread shutdown of the country that carries through the summer or longer is pretty unrealistic to expect. I just don't think people will agree to do it, and honestly I'm not certain how that would even work.

But that dispassionate assessment of the situation should not be read as advocacy that my local brewpub re-open today.

[WeAreNDHockey]

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Again, I don't believe I owe a duty to you to stay home, yet as I've said repeatedly, I think staying home is a great idea for your own protection, and I've followed that practice now for going on two months.

In a civilized society you absolutely have a duty to your neighbors. If we don't have a duty to look out for the safety of our neighbors, we don't have a civilized society. In a world where the right wants to simplify and dumb down everything, why can't the right see that the simple notion of a sense of duty to your neighbors protects you as well as them? While you might be happy you don't live next door to me, I can assure you I'm da mn glad I don't live next door to you (even if you are staying inside) and if I did live next door to you, I'd move.