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    Capitalism is the problem. We could have instituted short term UBI (as you know) and saved the economy for cheaper. Instead we gave corporations a ton, the people very little and pretended to care about small business.
    I 100% agree with you here. The right UBI would have been the way to go.
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    Capitalism is the problem. We could have instituted short term UBI (as you know) and saved the economy for cheaper. Instead we gave corporations a ton, the people very little and pretended to care about small business.
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    I know people that are in the gig economy...as a side hustle it is fine but if it is your primary employment you arent going to make a lot most likely. I looked into it when I moved to Seattle (driving for Uber/Lyft) because I was going to need a job quick and the pluses were way outweighed by the negatives. It hasnt changed much which is why you see many of those drivers driving for both companies ALONG WITH working for companies like Instacart or Shipt. (however that is spelled) They end up working just as hard as a regular job would anyways.

    The gig economy is not an answer to any problem long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    I 100% agree with you here. The right UBI would have been the way to go.
    My buddy (a Republican Small Business Owner dealing with SBA) cannot believe that anyone with an IQ over 40 doesnt see it. You cant solve this with bull****te Trickle Down. He 100% supports UBI to fix the problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    My buddy (a Republican Small Business Owner dealing with SBA) cannot believe that anyone with an IQ over 40 doesnt see it. You cant solve this with bull****te Trickle Down. He 100% supports UBI to fix the problem :shock:
    In fact, with the right UBI. Health Care. And Social Security. You could fix the whole ball of wax. All this event would have done is shuffle the deck.
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    In fact, with the right UBI. Health Care. And Social Security. You could fix the whole ball of wax.
    We still can if enough people get mad enough and we vote these muthaf-ckers out of office and then prosecute them into prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    "We can have a democratic society or we can have the concentration of great wealth in the hands of a few. We cannot have both."

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    Is that just the Ralph Nader version, or did you actually find the quote?
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    We still can if enough people get mad enough and we vote these muthaf-ckers out of office and then prosecute them into prison.

    Anger can be power. D'ja know that you can use it?
    I know we still can. I still have hope. Don't take that away from me too.
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    I know we still can. I still have hope. Don't take that away from me too.
    I'll never take hope away. "Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy..." there's always hope that three other people will show up and stop him. And that's what good men should always do.


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    Right now, I drive for DoorDash and Instacart, and here are some thoughts:

    1. It's income, yes. But I don't love it.

    2. I'm grateful for no contact delivery, but I still need some contact to pick up the orders. I have friends working on a mask or two for me.

    3. I'm still searching for part time work, something more definite.

    4. You're right I'm crossing a picket line to drive and deliver.

    5. Base pay is at most $4 per delivery, which means I'm dependent on tips. It really blows when I don't get tipped on a $40 order from Buffalo Wild Wings. It especially blows when I hold the depreciating asset, and pay for my gas, insurance, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissThundercat View Post
    Right now, I drive for DoorDash and Instacart, and here are some thoughts:

    1. It's income, yes. But I don't love it.

    2. I'm grateful for no contact delivery, but I still need some contact to pick up the orders. I have friends working on a mask or two for me.

    3. I'm still searching for part time work, something more definite.

    4. You're right I'm crossing a picket line to drive and deliver.

    5. Base pay is at most $4 per delivery, which means I'm dependent on tips. It really blows when I don't get tipped on a $40 order from Buffalo Wild Wings. It especially blows when I hold the depreciating asset, and pay for my gas, insurance, etc.
    I hope you're not running into moves like this because this is one of the bigger d-bag moves I've heard about.

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    I hope you're not running into moves like this because this is one of the bigger d-bag moves I've heard about.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/tech/...ing/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    I hope you're not running into moves like this because this is one of the bigger d-bag moves I've heard about.

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    Those people should be fired into the sun. What's wrong with them?
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    Honestly, I love the Instacart/Shipt thing so much I am almost certain we're going to keep it AFTER the pandemic. We had been talking about it for a while. Just never set it up. It's pretty great. Would still probably go to the store if we need onsie-twosies or even fresh produce. I find I need to walk through that area to be inspired. So cooking lately has been a little... different and forced at times.

    Either way, I think they should just tack on a 15% delivery fee and get rid of the tips entirely. Or do it based on # of items. If I buy a $40 roast or something, I don't think that's worth $8 when a box of cheerios requires approximately the same effort. I'm still working through the morality and logic of tipping on stuff like this. Their time is obviously worth a lot to me now, so I'm starting at 15 w/ round up and if they go the extra mile, certainly 20%+.

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    Ugh. Just found out a couple of friends got evicted from their building (small business) because they didn't make rent this last month. They're a pottery studio that does amazing work but makes a ton of their income on classes. I met them through my wife's sister who knew them. Our one-month anniversary date was a candle class with them. We ended up making our unity candle out of the supplies we got from that class We've done a bunch of classes with them and gotten to know them pretty well over the last year and a half.

    Anyways, now I'm both sad and angry. They're great people and I can't believe they were evicted. Who the hell is going to fill that space? That's just bad business. COsts more to sever that relationship than you'd get by letting it sit empty.

    This ****ing sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I'll never take hope away. "Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy..."
    Ooh, I get that reference.


    Wait, Kep's references are from that fancy book-learning stuff. My references are a bit lower brow.

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    I would love to have you as customers. At least you would tip me well if I did well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Ugh. Just found out a couple of friends got evicted from their building (small business) because they didn't make rent this last month. They're a pottery studio that does amazing work but makes a ton of their income on classes. I met them through my wife's sister who knew them. Our one-month anniversary date was a candle class with them. We ended up making our unity candle out of the supplies we got from that class We've done a bunch of classes with them and gotten to know them pretty well over the last year and a half.

    Anyways, now I'm both sad and angry. They're great people and I can't believe they were evicted. Who the hell is going to fill that space? That's just bad business. COsts more to sever that relationship than you'd get by letting it sit empty.

    This ****ing sucks.
    That's insanity by the landlord.

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