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Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.
Originally posted by Handyman View PostIs it from the same clown who has been proven wrong twice now?
I dont have an issue with the Diamond Princess as a data point...that someone who is published and respected spreads misinformation and blames the media is what bugs me. That guy is a clown.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.
Originally posted by Handyman View PostIs it from the same clown who has been proven wrong twice now?
I dont have an issue with the Diamond Princess as a data point...that someone who is published and respected spreads misinformation and blames the media is what bugs me. That guy is a clown.
Edit: *As far as any publication goes for that matter.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostThere was a study reported in The Lancet a day or two ago that suggested the death rate may be only a third of that, for what it's worth.Cornell University
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Originally posted by aparch View PostCH2M Hill? Those bunch of fu** ups couldn't even get sh** to flow downhill in Chicago*, I doubt they could even draw a biological super weapon with a box of crayons and a coloring book of germs, let alone create one.Cornell University
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Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.
Originally posted by Kepler View PostIf it's a celebrity that's one thing. Anybody who takes a celebrity seriously on matters of public policy is begging for Darwin for breakfast.
When you cited "public figures" and "media" I was thinking it was reporters, analysts, or staffers. That would be 1000x worse since those people ought to know better and are serving something larger than their own Q score.
Here let me break it down for you:
Following John Cusack is a way to get a look at what both the "BeRnIe or DIE!!!!" crowd believes AND the legitimate mouthpieces and media types that support Bernie think. If you follow him he often retweets them. As such anyone who follows him (or follows someone who follows him or whoever else the algorithm decides) sees this. Now the people he is often retweeting on these matters are people like say Mehdi Hasan, Krystal Ball (who I havent seen comment on this), Peter Daou amongst others who are politicians, activists and media types for various print, online and TV sources. They say it, he retweets it and so on. I use him because he is a good example but honestly I bet if you just followed Krystal Ball or The Hill you would see most of it. The movement to destroy Biden because Bernie cant win legitimately is Putin-esque in its efficiency. (no I am not saying Putin has anything to do with it)
Now, if it was being only disseminated to the Berners I wouldnt much care. They would see it and create their bubble and we could ignoreit. The problem is many of these people are followed and follow more mainstream types. As such this stuff doesnt stay in the Berner bubble but goes viral. Twitter makes sure of it. That is why I see some nutjob Righties despite not following anyone of that ilk. I might follow someone who has retweeted James Woods defending Glenn Beck or something and there we go. (that is why The White House and President always end up in my feed)
tl;dr: John Cusack is just the guy that gives us the glimpse. There are dozens of media, politicians and activists out there using their cache and thousands of followers to try and tear the Democrats apart right now."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostThe Lancet is pretty dang good as far as medical journals* go... I think you're confusing him with the guy destroyed in the New Yorker interview with Isaac Chotiner
Edit: *As far as any publication goes for that matter.
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Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.
As the virus spread throughout the U.S., Trump was so distracted by impeachment that he held six campaign rallies and played golf at his West Palm Beach property on three separate occasions. https://t.co/k8ysIpNVZg
— Robert Reich (@RBReich) March 31, 2020
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Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.
Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostThe Lancet is pretty dang good as far as medical journals* go... I think you're confusing him with the guy destroyed in the New Yorker interview with Isaac Chotiner
Edit: *As far as any publication goes for that matter.
(Lancet is not downplaying this at all and their numbers seem on par with what I read last week)
edit: Close to 3800 dead according to WorldometersLast edited by Handyman; 03-31-2020, 04:36 PM."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostOk you need to really learn what Twitter is or just stop commenting on it. This is like explaining the internet to my grandparents
Here let me break it down for you:
Following John Cusack is a way to get a look at what both the "BeRnIe or DIE!!!!" crowd believes AND the legitimate mouthpieces and media types that support Bernie think. If you follow him he often retweets them. As such anyone who follows him (or follows someone who follows him or whoever else the algorithm decides) sees this. Now the people he is often retweeting on these matters are people like say Mehdi Hasan, Krystal Ball (who I havent seen comment on this), Peter Daou amongst others who are politicians, activists and media types for various print, online and TV sources. They say it, he retweets it and so on. I use him because he is a good example but honestly I bet if you just followed Krystal Ball or The Hill you would see most of it. The movement to destroy Biden because Bernie cant win legitimately is Putin-esque in its efficiency. (no I am not saying Putin has anything to do with it)
Now, if it was being only disseminated to the Berners I wouldnt much care. They would see it and create their bubble and we could ignore it. The problem is many of these people are followed and follow more mainstream types. As such this stuff doesnt stay in the Berner bubble but goes viral. Twitter makes sure of it. That is why I see some nutjob Righties despite not following anyone of that ilk. I might follow someone who has retweeted James Woods defending Glenn Beck or something and there we go. (that is why The White House and President always end up in my feed)
tl;dr: John Cusack is just the guy that gives us the glimpse. There are dozens of media, politicians and activists out there using their cache and thousands of followers to try and tear the Democrats apart right now.
I think you're falling for the narrative that says this is going to make an impact on sentient beings. A narrative that is itself generated by social media to exaggerate its importance and drive people back to it.
What I'm saying is, as dumb as the majority of people, even Democrats, are, they aren't dumber than that. People can watch garbage teevee or retweet garbage tweets without becoming acolytes. These people figure out their mortgages and their insurance and can tie their shoes. They aren't righties. They have opposable thumbs.Last edited by Kepler; 03-31-2020, 04:37 PM.Cornell University
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Some might be, but not as much as you might think. Many of these people ARE acolytes because they still say "Only Bernie Can Win". And they arent saying it because it makes them money or gives them cache...they are true believers. They friggin spam over it and get their followers to do the same."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostSome might be, but not as much as you might think. Many of these people ARE acolytes because they still say "Only Bernie Can Win". And they arent saying it because it makes them money or gives them cache...they are true believers. They friggin spam over it and get their followers to do the same.
Mass social media is a waste of energy and a character killer. It is the Apotheosis of Capitalism: commodifying and cheapening us.Last edited by Kepler; 03-31-2020, 05:23 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostI wasnt talking about The Lancet...I was talking about the Nobel Laureate from Stanford the RWNJ rolled out to blame the Left Media and used China and Diamond Princess to prove that the numbers werent as bad as expected and blah blah blah. (without acknowledging the flaws in the argument or data AT ALL) The Lancet is fine, he was irresponsible and his conclusions were ridiculous. I missed SJHovey said Lancet I read too fast based on seeing Diamond Princess
(Lancet is not downplaying this at all and their numbers seem on par with what I read last week)
edit: Close to 3800 dead according to WorldometersThat community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostI wasnt talking about The Lancet...I was talking about the Nobel Laureate from Stanford the RWNJ rolled out to blame the Left Media and used China and Diamond Princess to prove that the numbers werent as bad as expected and blah blah blah. (without acknowledging the flaws in the argument or data AT ALL) The Lancet is fine, he was irresponsible and his conclusions were ridiculous. I missed SJHovey said Lancet I read too fast based on seeing Diamond Princess
(Lancet is not downplaying this at all and their numbers seem on par with what I read last week)
edit: Close to 3800 dead according to Worldometers
Either way, I've really learned to tune out any story that starts with "Nobel Laureate Says..."
Same thing goes for any story that leads with "Professor atSays..." especially the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, etc. Great. Unless it's "Professor of Epidemiology at Says About COVID-19" shut the **** up. You might was well as be ****-posting on USCHO like the rest of us. Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI saw a statistic that a new virus' first wave burns out when 80% of the population has been exposed. I'm assuming:
80% exposed
20% of exposed infected
02% of infected dead
For the world:
9 billion population
7.2 billion exposed
1.4 billion infected
29 million dead
For the US:
330 million population
264 million exposed
53 million infected
1.1 million dead
For comparison, the CDC estimated 38-54M flu illnesses this season, so down to the level of infection the numbers check. The trick is to keep the number of deaths closer to what it is for the flu (60,000) than it would be if we had absolutely no immunity or vaccine (a brand new virus).
Why would only 20% of those exposed become infected when no one has any immunity? That seems low.
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