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  • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

    Originally posted by Whalers View Post
    Someone fell asleep in math and/or stats class. When citing exponential growth, extrapolations and projections, why do we overlook the obvious? Darius gave the following figures based upon a 1.5% rate;

    US population = 330,000,000, projected infections 70,000,000 - 150,000,000 = 1,057,000 - 2,265,000 deaths.

    Then please check my math and apply the same statistics because the following DID occur??

    China population = 1,500,000,000, projected infections 318,000,000 - 682,000,000 = 4,770,000 - 10,230,000 deaths.

    I know the Chinese government has been under reporting the problem, but where are the multiple millions of bodies buried around Wuhan that no one has been able to locate?
    China immediately implemented a draconian lockdown for tens of millions of people that they are only now beginning to relax.

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    • Originally posted by BassAle View Post
      China immediately implemented a draconian lockdown for tens of millions of people that they are only now beginning to relax.
      Trumpettes would love that type of lockdown.....
      for everyone except themselves.
      $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
      Just win.....

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      • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

        Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
        Historical references like Eisenhower, Roosevelt and Churchill is a joke. They were talking to a citizenry who was willing and did make extreme sacrifices for their countries. Trumpettes would never be willing to make those same sacrifices. It’s all about the $$’s and their perceived rights.

        Any moronic comparison to deaths from other causes is also a joke. You have no credibility when you list non victim deaths and compare to virus deaths. Even more of a joke is comparing to WW2. Really? As I said before, this mindset in WW2 would have resulted in us speaking German now. There would have been no Normandy as the orange apeman and his lemmings would not be willing to sacrifice.
        There was a mindset in WW2. Joe Kennedy. Fortunately it did not prevail.
        I will not be out cheered in my own building.

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        • Originally posted by Darius View Post
          There was a mindset in WW2. Joe Kennedy. Fortunately it did not prevail.
          But the pacifists were not in power.
          $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
          Just win.....

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          • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

            Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
            But the pacifists were not in power.
            I forgot that Neville Chamberlain was a war monger who crushed Hitler for daring to enter the Sudetenland.

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            • Originally posted by Whalers View Post
              I forgot that Neville Chamberlain was a war monger who crushed Hitler for daring to enter the Sudetenland.
              Lol. Really relevant.
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              Just win.....

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              • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
                Lol. Really relevant.
                Not following, you seem to jump all over the place. You said that the pacifists werent in charge, but Chamberlain (assisted by JOE Kennedy) rolled over and allowed Hitler to do what he pleased (Joe had to protect that Whiskey monopoloy that financed John). He WAS the pacifist.

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                • Originally posted by Whalers View Post
                  Not following, you seem to jump all over the place. You said that the pacifists werent in charge, but Chamberlain (assisted by JOE Kennedy) rolled over and allowed Hitler to do what he pleased (Joe had to protect that Whiskey monopoloy that financed John). He WAS the pacifist.
                  Obsessed with Kennedy’s I see. While trumps appeasement of North Korea is the comparison you are looking for, not some ambassador to U.K.
                  $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
                  Just win.....

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                  • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                    Originally posted by Whalers View Post
                    Not following, you seem to jump all over the place. You said that the pacifists werent in charge, but Chamberlain (assisted by JOE Kennedy) rolled over and allowed Hitler to do what he pleased (Joe had to protect that Whiskey monopoloy that financed John). He WAS the pacifist.
                    Correct.

                    Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
                    Obsessed with Kennedy’s I see. While trumps appeasement of North Korea is the comparison you are looking for, not some ambassador to U.K.
                    Chamberlain assured the free world a piece of paper would keep the Nazis at bay.

                    (spoiler alert - it didn't)

                    President Trump's interactions with NoKo have greatly reduced missiles being lobbed over SoKo and Japan. Appeasement? What has he given them, other than some photo ops, all while offering him and his country a pathway towards opening up to the rest of the world, in return for nuclear disarmament. All while the US maintains a significant military/naval presence in the area.

                    Scenario #1 led the world to WW2 … Scenario #2 has led to lessened global tensions.

                    Kind of a big difference in outcome there, no?
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                    • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                      And your point is???

                      I’ll repeat, trumpettes will not make the sacrifices that were required during WW2. Selfishness rules.
                      $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
                      Just win.....

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                      • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                        Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                        President Trump's interactions with NoKo have greatly reduced missiles being lobbed over SoKo and Japan.
                        Family members that live in Daejon will attest that South Koreans as a people feel the exact opposite. If you are going to make sh*t up, try to pick something that isn't so easily refuted.

                        They must not have reported this on Fox News.
                        https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/08/nort...tary-says.html

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                        • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2





                          Chuck knows how she feels.

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                          • Originally posted by TalonsUpPuckDown View Post
                            Family members that live in Daejon will attest that South Koreans as a people feel the exact opposite. If you are going to make sh*t up, try to pick something that isn't so easily refuted.

                            They must not have reported this on Fox News.
                            https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/08/nort...tary-says.html
                            Not worth the effort but I would enjoy posting all the “love” and “friend” quotes el dumbo in chief pronounced while he was elevating Kim Jong Un to the world stage and getting nothing in return. Really slowed down that missile program. Lmao.
                            $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
                            Just win.....

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                            • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                              Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                              This is not good news. If this is valid they need to pivot quickly and I hope this was not the only option they've been exploring.

                              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-care-in-study

                              Malaria Drug Chloroquine No Better Than Regular Coronavirus Care, Study Finds

                              This guy is going to get smoked over this
                              Good to see Mini Mike Bloomberg doing his part to try to douse any hope of treatment solutions. But here's the interesting part, when you actually read the article. First, consider the source (China). Second … an extreme example of burying the lede ...

                              The report published by the Journal of Zhejiang University in China showed that patients who got the medicine didn’t fight off the new coronavirus more often than those who did not get the medicine.

                              The study involved just 30 patients. Of the 15 patients given the malaria drug, 13 tested negative for the coronavirus after a week of treatment. Of the 15 patients who didn’t get hydroxychloroquine, 14 tested negative for the virus.

                              The results of the study weren’t statistically significant.


                              On top of that, we heard from President Dr. Fauci on use of Chloroquine for treatment of COVID-19. Read it, and if you don't like the article/writer, there's a link to his radio interview after:

                              https://townhall.com/columnists/larr...vid19-n2565678

                              "If you're a doctor listening to me right now and a patient with coronavirus feels like they want to try that," Stigall asked, "and you're their doctor, you're not Anthony Fauci the guy running the coronavirus task force, would you say 'alright, we'll give it a whirl'?"

                              "Yeah, of course, particularly if people have no other option," Fauci said. "These drugs are approved drugs for other reasons. They're anti-malaria drugs, and they're drugs against certain autoimmune diseases like lupus. Physicians throughout the country can prescribe that in an off-label way. Which means they can write it for something it was not approved for."


                              There are an increasing number of anecdotal reports and instances worldwide where usage of hydroxychloroquine is coming up with positive results. So the media runs with some poor dude out in Arizona who ingests aquarium cleaner, and floats what they admit is a statistically insignificant study from … China.

                              Backtracking a little bit, there was also the issue of the NYT changing its headline multiple times on Sunday night to shield the home team from the blowback their actions deserved at the time:

                              https://www.theblaze.com/news/new_yo...virus_headline

                              And some of you folks wonder why we question the media's fairness ...
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                              • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                                Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                                The results of the study weren’t statistically significant.
                                I don't think you understand what that means. It means that there was no statistically significant difference in outcome for those that received the treatment and those that didn't. Every study that finds a drug doesn't work will have this language.

                                The design of this study was better than the French study that Trump loves to tout. The evidence against this drug is stronger than any evidence in favor of it. It was premature and reckless for Trump to tout it so much.

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