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  • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The best medical description of the disease I have seen.
    Kep: You've really outdone yourself this time. Over the many years (and 70,000+ posts) you have often put up some special stuff but this one was simply one of the best. I have saved it and will be using this one video and his follow up second video for those who can understand them. Just a fabulous summary of some very important points and facts. One must remember that these were put up on 3/15/20 so they do not cover the past 3 weeks but he was spot on. Thank you
    Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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    • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

      Originally posted by Darius View Post
      Moi?
      Besides, what'd (((I))) do???

      Just sittin' back here sharin' in the groove.
      I don't usually invoke the Clinton - as negatively compelling as they are - but you usually point out how folks on the other side haven't done their job (so to speak) without an obligatory Clinton add-in.

      So I did it. Just for you, mon ami.
      Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
      Montreal Expos Forever ...

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      • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

        Originally posted by Darius View Post
        #1 - We can agree to disagree, but you are dead wrong. Ditto

        #2 - For the greater good and having no reason to play the President's game. If Dr. Fauci were not a real live national hero, the President would have fired him 2 weeks ago. Not sure if the President has authority to do that, but he would have done it. Also, credit to Dr. Fauci for his professionalism and diplomacy while sticking to the facts and his beliefs which are based on experience and science.
        … just like he fired the aforementioned Mueller was fired, correct? Did I miss that??

        These folks in the Executive branch all "serve at the pleasure of the President" right??
        Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
        Montreal Expos Forever ...

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        • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

          Still kind of disappointed no one has opted to take the quiz, prompted by Dutchman's data on Friday ...

          QUIZ QUESTION: What do all of these states (including both NY City/NY State) have in common?

          As of a (Friday), 60.8% of all deaths in 5 locations:

          NYC Bill DeBlasio
          New Jersey
          Michigan
          Louisiana
          Washington


          Threw in a hint to try to engage some guesses, hopefully we'll have a winner shortly.

          The prediction guy I promised late last week, hopefully I'll get to him later, most likely Monday though. It's been tough ... I show up to read and make a few posts, here and there, as other things allow, and then someone comes in with a 3 page screed which (mostly) seemed personally addressed to me. So my buddy is a little irked at you guys, I do hope it doesn't sway his predictions ...
          Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
          Montreal Expos Forever ...

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          • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

            Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
            Still kind of disappointed no one has opted to take the quiz, prompted by Dutchman's data on Friday ...

            QUIZ QUESTION: What do all of these states (including both NY City/NY State) have in common?

            As of a (Friday), 60.8% of all deaths in 5 locations:

            NYC Bill DeBlasio
            New Jersey
            Michigan
            Louisiana
            Washington


            Threw in a hint to try to engage some guesses, hopefully we'll have a winner shortly.

            The prediction guy I promised late last week, hopefully I'll get to him later, most likely Monday though. It's been tough ... I show up to read and make a few posts, here and there, as other things allow, and then someone comes in with a 3 page screed which (mostly) seemed personally addressed to me. So my buddy is a little irked at you guys, I do hope it doesn't sway his predictions ...
            Just a wild guess here. All led by Democrats?
            if you walk with Jesus, he's gonna save your soul, you gotta keep the devil way down in the hole

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            • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

              So enjoyed watching Chris Wallace on state run tv grill the surgeon “not so general “ about stay at home orders.

              “ You know, when President Trump says he's a wartime president, during World War II FDR [former President Franklin D. Roosevelt] didn't say: 'Well, it's up to each state to decide what to do.' He mobilized the nation," Wallace said.”
              $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
              Just win.....

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              • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                I've been watching Fox News more than my norm because they show more of the briefings than others and my CSPAN is SD. Watching right now while breaking from yard work. They are pretty much REPORTING, including airing a clip of a CNN interview from this morning and an interview with MI's Governor who said we need one clear national response. Shepard Smith would be proud. The President called Fox News out during a media rant a few days ago. It is going to be interesting when death comes to "his" states. The ones with fewer scientists, public health options, etc.
                I will not be out cheered in my own building.

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                • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                  Jesus Christ, Chuck, you really have drunk the Trumper Kool-Aid, haven't you? Guess it's to be figured as you're the perfect demographic, an old white guy.

                  Tell me, are you a racist white supremacist **** as well?
                  What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                  • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                    Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                    I don't usually invoke the Clinton - as negatively compelling as they are - but you usually point out how folks on the other side haven't done their job (so to speak) without an obligatory Clinton add-in.

                    So I did it. Just for you, mon ami.
                    Oh, then. Thanks! Just so you know, not a fan. Hillary anyway.
                    I will not be out cheered in my own building.

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                    • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                      Originally posted by rufus View Post
                      Jesus Christ, Chuck, you really have drunk the Trumper Kool-Aid, haven't you? Guess it's to be figured as you're the perfect demographic, an old white guy.

                      Tell me, are you a racist white supremacist **** as well?
                      It is a little known fact that "Chuck" is actually a born female now gender neutral teenager who constantly trolls the UNH threads. We let them because:
                      1.) Our threads are welcoming tolerant safe spaces and
                      2.) They have an uncanny ability to predict scores.
                      Think what you will about Chuck, but they do know hockey.
                      I will not be out cheered in my own building.

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                      • Originally posted by Darius View Post
                        It is a little known fact that "Chuck" is actually a born female now gender neutral teenager who constantly trolls the UNH threads. We let them because:
                        1.) Our threads are welcoming tolerant safe spaces and
                        2.) They have an uncanny ability to predict scores.
                        Think what you will about Chuck, but they do know hockey.
                        Strength in numbers Darius
                        UNH Hockey: You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

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                        • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                          Chuck, thanks for responding and thanks for reading my little novel. your response certainly didn't disappoint!

                          First, I'm sorry I offended you by responding to one of your posts that was all of a week old. I wasn't aware that there was a USCHO Forums "Chuck Murray" rule that apparently restricts any other poster that's outside of the two individuals directly involved from responding to, or addressing said original post? If there is, please cite that rule for me so I don't repeat that mistake. Also, I'm not quite following your logic when you say that it was rich of me to accuse "scoreboard" of taking the easy way out since I came late to the party. One would think that writing a three page response would be described as anything but "easy". Also, as to your point that I might be missing the context of the discussion because I was "late" getting in, or had maybe not read other previous posts between the two of you, I promise I've read every post in both threads (DI side) of this topic. It was how you presented yourself in your various posts that motivated me to finally weigh in outside of my previous hockey opinions. Thus, I feel quite informed regarding how you see this crisis and, the world in general.

                          Between my hockey life and my military service, I've been fortunate to travel extensively. I've seen some things that many haven't and I hope never will. So yes, my life experiences have and continue to shape my opinions. It's also very cute that you'd accuse me of being "brain washed" by those "Lefies" in the Cafe threads, especially since both my education and military experiences trained me to avoid that very thing. And let's be honest, if there's any entity in today's society that specializes in brain washing, it's conservative talk radio and Fox News. So, if others "in here" were placing bets on which one of us are "brain washed", my guess is there would be more money put on you than me. Oh... and trust me, I'm an expert at "3rd man in" calls.

                          As to your accusation of a lack of my supposed self awareness in regards to my saying I won't get into name calling or ad hom attacks but then "rip Republicans" by calling them xenophobes, misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, and racists/white nationalists. Really Chuck? C'mon now, it's called nuance. If you really couldn't tell that I meant I wouldn't name call any specific poster, then I don't know what to tell you. And, I certainly don't define that as an "ad hom" attack either.

                          Next, regarding your lack of faith in my 1984 vote for Reagan. I was born in October of 1966. Remember, I said I was in my early 50s (generally accepted as being between 50 & 53). I turned 18 in October of my senior year. So yes, I was eligible to vote in that election. And, despite my current Democratic leanings, at that time I was the product of a very successful, full-time, military pilot/officer and, like many young people my political opinions were significantly influenced by my parents. Trust me, I took much glee in rubbing Reagan's victory/my vote into the faces of my friends who voted for Mondale! Of course, I now recognize that was one of my biggest mistakes ever and, the beginning of a forty-year long heist by the 1% and corporate America of the middle class.

                          Regarding your "bullet points":

                          Mueller Report -- Vol. 1 of the report concludes that the investigation did not find sufficient evidence that the campaign "coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities".[4][5] Investigators ultimately had an incomplete picture of what happened due to communications that were encrypted, deleted or unsaved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete or declined.[6][7][8] However, the report stated that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion",[9][10][11] but was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.[12][13][14] It also identifies links between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government,[15] about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.[4] Mueller later stated that his investigation's conclusion on Russian interference "deserves the attention of every American".[16]

                          Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice. The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgment that Trump committed a crime,[17][18][19] abiding by an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution,[20][21][22] fearing that charges would affect Trump's governing and preempt impeachment,[18][21][23] and feeling that it would be unfair to accuse Trump of a crime without charges or a trial.[20][21][24] As such, the investigation "does not conclude that the President committed a crime"; however, "it also does not exonerate him",[25][26] with investigators not confident of Trump's innocence.[27][28][29][30] The report describes ten episodes where Trump could have obstructed justice while president and one before he was elected,[31][32] noting that he privately tried to "control the investigation".[33][34][35] The report further states that Congress can decide whether Trump obstructed justice and take action accordingly,[18][36][37] referencing impeachment.[38][39]

                          Chuck, if you read those two paragraphs and can honestly say with a straight face that Mueller found "zilch, zero, zip, nada …", then I must genuinely question your reading comprehension skills. Seriously Chuck. As for my "excuse" for why they didn't attempt to prosecute him; well, as I tell my kids, there are "excuses" and there are "reasons". What you call an excuse happens to be a long standing Justice Department policy (reason). Thus, it wasn't a "waste of time and money" to do the investigation. Again, if you actually read what I posted above, you'll see that Mueller specifically cited the fact that they didn't want to directly accuse him of a specific crime and possibly "pollute" the Impeachment process if the decision was made to move forward with that based on his investigation. Fortunately (or unfortunately for Republicans), he committed more crimes with his Ukraine policy that became to big for the Democrats to ignore.

                          As for China vs Russia, I'm still quite connected to the military and I can promise you that the military still considers Russia a bigger threat. I'm sorry but, why does China's GDP being bigger than Russia's make them a "bigger" enemy? And yes, I realize that Ronnie gets credit for winning the Cold War. As he probably should. However, there are a number of historians that would now argue that the massive increases in our military budget which forced Russia to try and keep up and led to their economy crashing, also caused some other significant shortages in funding for social programs in our country that may have had better long term benefits.

                          Yes, Coulter has occasionally been critical of Trump the last few months. Regardless, she still defends him far more than not and, I highly doubt she's voting for a Democrat anytime soon. And again, as I said in my original post, I actually do occasionally watch Fox. My guess is, you probably never voluntarily turn on CNN or MSNBC. Just a guess but, I'll believe you if you say differently.

                          Trump/Fauci faux "friction"--

                          Seriously Chuck, now your descriptive term is "friction"? Originally you said that the articles/video pieces painted it as "Trump hates Fauci" or "Trump is jealous of Fauci". I responded that I hadn't read anything or had seen anything on cable news that based any story on "Trump hates Fauci" or was "jealous". The word "hate" indicates a very different level of emotion than "friction". I agree that there were articles/pieces done about a possible friction between them or possibly Trump being frustrated with him. Being possibly frustrated with him isn't anywhere close to the same as "hating him", nor is it the same as being "jealous" of him. I have yet to see either of those words used by any reporter in describing the Trump/Fauci relationship. I simply responded to your statement in which you attribute a level of bias and depth of emotion from the writer/reporter that simply hasn't existed in the stories that have been published about Trump and Fauci. Words actually matter Chuck. Nuance actually matters. Still, I suppose after spending almost four years taking what Trump has actually said or Tweeted and try to turn or twist his actual words to make it mean something it obviously didn't in order to defend your vote and, justify his lack of empathy or even basic understanding of what being "presidential" means, makes it a lot easier to misconstrue the difference between the words "frustration" or "friction" and the word "hate".

                          As for me closing up my business...interesting you would attempt to somehow tie that decision to some mythical thing the Obama administration did or didn't do that negatively affected my ability to succeed. I thought I sated it fairly clearly but, I'll restate it for you again. The very structure of the business changed and, it wasn't worth it for me to continue. I simply couldn't operate the same way the competition was. It was simply the free-market economy functioning the way it was supposed to. No hard feelings on my part and certainly nothing the Obama administration did or didn't do. Since you brought up Obama's economy though, let's remember unemployment dropped from 10% down to 4.7% during his term and the economy experienced GDP growth in 27 of 29 quarters, including the last 10 in row. So, I'm sorry to burst your bubble that Obama's economy was some kind of failure as the actual numbers (facts) say otherwise.

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                          • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                            Never mind growth under Trump slowed and he was hand-delivered an economy on the rise. You have way more tolerance and patience for willful ignorance than I do, net p.

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                            • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                              Get ready for the “social distancing is working” versus “this was overrated” debate if numbers do flatline or decrease.
                              $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
                              Just win.....

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                              • Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

                                Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
                                Get ready for the “social distancing is working” versus “this was overrated” debate if numbers do flatline or decrease.
                                Well, since it's Dimwit Donnie's contention, and that of his acolytes here on this thread, that Obama's response to the H1n1 flu was a disaster since ~12,000 people died in a year's time, since we're closing in on that figure in just a bit over a month, we'll have to see what the spin will be.
                                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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