Covfefe-19 - Part 4- Stay the **** Home

[Kepler]

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I'm with you, let's wait and see what happens with the economy. Loan forgiveness is silly right now. A pause on all payments until something like June or I don't know, December 2021 is a better idea.

It sounds to me like Pelosi is just trying to exploit an opportunity, same as the GOP is doing with their heists. Only difference is she thinks so much smaller.

Bail out every person in America from every dollar of their net personal debt ($14T) less their assets (cuts out the rich), and give every family $10k/month to stay at home isolated until the virus is controlled. That's a stimulus.

[SJHovey]

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Wait, so the US already has 11% of reported worldwide cases? We sure showed China, South Korea and Italy who's boss in short order!!

New York has had more cases than every country on the planet except for China, Italy, Spain, Germany and Iran.

[Kepler]

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New York has had more cases than every country on the planet except for China, Italy, Spain, Germany and Iran.

New York is testing. Pigs Knuckle is praying.

[burd]

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New York has had more cases than every country on the planet except for China, Italy, Spain, Germany and Iran.

That's some dam good hoaxing. Still, outhoaxed by Spain??

[Kepler]

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Seen on Kos:

ATLAS COUGHED

[ScoobyDoo]

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It sounds to me like Pelosi is just trying to exploit an opportunity, same as the GOP is doing with their heists. Only difference is she thinks so much smaller.

Bail out every person in America from every dollar of their net personal debt ($14T) less their assets (cuts out the rich), and give every family $10k/month to stay at home isolated until the virus is controlled. That's a stimulus.

It certainly is what the GOP does. Let's get some the things we want for a change.

[psych]

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It wouldn't. But when the feds are complete and utter f=ckups and are telling people to go out and do stuff contrary to everything science and medicine and math tell us, at some point the feds become a threat to the states.

I agree with all of that. But, in absence of federal leadership, a lot of leaders of red states have managed to step up to the challenge. Luckily, not all red governors are taking the advice of the federal government, nor do they have to do so, in absence of some nationwide quarantine y'all agree will likely never come. Besides, the virus is obviously already in New York. Closing their borders to all red states, some of which are taking exactly the right approach to this crisis, and have fewer cases per capita than New York does, or, at the very least, have the same number per capita, makes little sense at this point. The virus is spreading uncontrollably there, possibly like everywhere else (we just don't know, because again, lack of testing).
If your original point was to lessen the number of cases New York can manage, based on red states having people infected with the virus, it should close its borders to all states, not just red ones. I don't think anyone has seen evidence that red states have a higher percentage of infected individuals than blue states, because frankly, the federal government (again, not the individual states) f-cked up and didn't have us prepared to test people on the massive scale that was required. Yes, Florida's governor, DeSantis, has f-cked up royally. But, then you make it a targeted approach, and ban people from Florida, which, lets be honest, still wouldn't work that well.

I mean, the more I think about it, wouldn't it make more sense (but still no sense at all) for red states (and all states) right now, in this moment, to close their borders to New York?

[Jimjamesak]

Newsom or Cuomo the first to close their borders to red states?

Alaska has mandated a two week quarantine for anyone who has traveled outside Alaska. Hawaii has done the same.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Meanwhile the other thread has posters accusing us of acting bummed every time a treatment looks promising[/url]

Dontcha know I tip back a quarantini every time an experimental treatment fails? I also consume the hearts of aborted fetuses as part of a Dem Satanic ritual.

[Handyman]

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I'm trying to understand what's illogical about it. Money not going to student loans opens up spending money for people that spend money. It's stimulus way way way more than stock buybacks.

Except it isnt. 10k off the top does nothing. Would be better to go for "1 year no payment, no accrued interest" than just wipe out 10k. That stimulates nothing unless they only have 10k because they still need to make payments.

If they want stimulus they need to eliminate payments in the here and now, not lower them when they come back. (and the lowering would be insignificant) Make a payment holiday for a significant amount of time and THEN you have stimulus.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Except it isnt. 10k off the top does nothing. Would be better to go for "1 year no payment, no accrued interest" than just wipe out 10k. That stimulates nothing unless they only have 10k because they still need to make payments.

If they want stimulus they need to eliminate payments in the here and now, not lower them when they come back. (and the lowering would be insignificant) Make a payment holiday for a significant amount of time and THEN you have stimulus.

10K off the top is going to help my daughter a lot. But, yeah, whatever.

[Handyman]

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That's some dam good hoaxing. Still, outhoaxed by Spain??

Spain has fallen behind...obviously their media isnt overhyping this enough.

BTW worldwide cases approaching 373 thousand...should be over 400k by days end. I believe again that is less time than the last 100k.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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10K off the top is going to help my daughter a lot. But, yeah, whatever.

And I believe the name of the bill is "The Let's Help ScoobyDoo's Daughter Bill."

In all seriousness, how many people have $10k or less in student loan debt?

[WisconsinWildcard]

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10K off the top is going to help my daughter a lot. But, yeah, whatever.

Most people who have trouble paying are on the income based plans (PAYE, REPAY etc) and thus the payments are tied to income. Taking 10K off will not really help them much because they were not paying the "expected" payment on the balance, instead a pro-rated rate based on last year's taxes.

I have 270K in loans from medical school and am on PAYE. 10K off my balance would not change my payments at all (not that I am arguing that I should be targeted with the stimulus as a job in healthcare right now, is stable).

[ScoobyDoo]

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And I believe the name of the bill is "The Let's Help ScoobyDoo's Daughter Bill."

In all seriousness, how many people have $10k or less in student loan debt?

When one is so used to getting nothing anything is something.