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  • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Fair enough. Except that last part (All the..)

    I don't believe that for a second. You might be right, but I don't believe it.
    There is self-selection of sociopaths in certain fields (the famous case of that Swiss bank intentionally screening for sociopaths because they were "a good institutional fit," but those are tiny numbers. I can't see that sociopathy is particularly identified with any economic or demographic characteristic. There is one glaring exception: identified sociopaths are overwhelmingly male, however I assume this means we are still culturally hidebound in our definition of sociopathy and we're missing the women.

    Either that or it's, you know, all of them...
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    • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      I'm more curious about the fractions of each class who offer to help. The most creative and outwardly helpful are the working class. I've seen more stories of the rich trying to buy private respirators and ask health care companies how they can better profit off COVID
      This is a different situation. That's preparation versus the disaster has hit.

      It's like rich people fortifying their house against a tornado. But when the tornado actually hits, then everybody helps everybody.
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      • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

        Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
        I remember when I went to Israel, ages ago, there was a bucket next to the toilet for the toilet paper. It didn't go into the toilet to be flushed.
        My great-grandfather used to do that. He grew up in a small coal mining town in southeastern Ohio, and I think it's what his family did when they finally got indoor plumbing, so it was what he knew.

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          I needed that.
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          • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            Fair enough. Except that last part (All the..)

            I don't believe that for a second. You might be right, but I don't believe it.
            Wait a second. Are you trying tell us sociopaths don't exist in every facet of society? Sociopathy is a psychological, and sometimes genetic, condition. Income does not play a part.

            Serial killers tend to be sociopaths. Prime example of how they come from every facet of society.
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            • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              There is self-selection of sociopaths in certain fields (the famous case of that Swiss bank intentionally screening for sociopaths because they were "a good institutional fit," but those are tiny numbers. I can't see that sociopathy is particularly identified with any economic or demographic characteristic. There is one glaring exception: identified sociopaths are overwhelmingly male, however I assume this means we are still culturally hidebound in our definition of sociopathy and we're missing the women.

              Either that or it's, you know, all of them...
              I think they're all sociopaths. The exceptions are clouding the real picture. How long did it take pro-sports owners to pony up and pay out of work employees? It wasn't the owners who did it first, it was the players. The players aren't rich because of sociopathy, they're rich because they're athletic. That right there is the evidence that is so hard to actually test. To be a CEO you need to be able to fire hundreds, maybe thousands of people, just so you can meet your quarters and get paid. Can a normal person sleep after they've just put thousands of people into crisis? I couldn't. Could anyone on this board? Why are the bankers the first to ask, "How are you planning to profit off COVID-19?"

              I suppose not all rich people are sociopaths. That's true. I just don't let my guard down to think that on any given day one of them would stop to take a **** on me if I were on fire.
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              • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
                Wait a second. Are you trying tell us sociopaths don't exist in every facet of society? Sociopathy is a psychological, and sometimes genetic, condition. Income does not play a part.

                Serial killers tend to be sociopaths. Prime example of how they come from every facet of society.
                My understanding is sociopathy is wetware. They're literally missing a piece that allows them to emotionally empathize. Interestingly they are just as likely to be able to intellectually empathize -- they understand perfectly well. In fact that allows them to manipulate others. It's all quite self-conscious.

                Sociopaths are like chess players leading you into a trap. Theoretically we could all do this; what stops us is our neuro-physiology. We have pieces in our brains that have evolved to make us not want to hurt people, and this has been a tool for our species. Cooperation and caring are evolutionary strategies.
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                • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  My understanding is sociopathy is wetware. They're literally missing a piece that allows them to emotionally empathize. Interestingly they are just as likely to be able to intellectually empathize -- they understand perfectly well. In fact that allows them to manipulate others. It's all quite self-conscious.

                  Sociopaths are like chess players leading you into a trap. Theoretically we could all do this; what stops us is our neuro-physiology. We have pieces in our brains that have evolved to make us not want to hurt people, and this has been a tool for our species. Cooperation and caring are evolutionary strategies.
                  I had read an interesting article about a special school which deals with children who exhibit sociopathic tendencies. Some of these kids come from horrible backgrounds and or abuse. While others come from normal family settings. Which of course prompted the writer to ask the question, is it environmental or genetic?

                  The answer from the school was interesting -- we don't care. It doesn't matter to us. All our concern is to get these kids to be proper members, or at least non-dangerous members, of society.

                  The most fascinating part for me was how these kids were motivated and what type of carrots work for them. And how it can, most of the time, work to keep these kids "in line." The school does show data that their methods work in terms of future crimes based on the general sociopathic population.
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                  • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                    Wasn't there a story out not long about suggesting the majority of CEOs are sociopaths?

                    I make no claims to the veracity of it nor whether or not there's an equal % of them in every social level...

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                    • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                      Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
                      I had read an interesting article about a special school which deals with children who exhibit sociopathic tendencies. Some of these kids come from horrible backgrounds and or abuse. While others come from normal family settings. Which of course prompted the writer to ask the question, is it environmental or genetic?

                      The answer from the school was interesting -- we don't care. It doesn't matter to us. All our concern is to get these kids to be proper members, or at least non-dangerous members, of society.

                      The most fascinating part for me was how these kids were motivated and what type of carrots work for them. And how it can, most of the time, work to keep these kids "in line." The school does show data that their methods work in terms of future crimes based on the general sociopathic population.
                      If it's from the same study I read it came down to these intuitive findings:

                      1. If you're acting out because you went through hell as a child then love and compassion and nurturing can help reset you to being a decent person.

                      2. If you're one of the lucky ones with an actual neural difference you're done. We should either find something for you to do that's insanely horrible but necessary or just push you out the airlock, because there's no changing you.

                      Case 2 sociopaths are not "broken." They're a perfectly manufactured model, they're just toxic to everybody else. We may have needed them once upon a time when humans were not the dominant threat to other humans to organize us and make the cold decisions, but since we swept everything else clear and now are the biggest problem to each other it's an obsolete model that should be discontinued.
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                      • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                        Wasn't there a story out not long about suggesting the majority of CEOs are sociopaths?
                        21%

                        (P)sychopathic behavior in the general population is about one in a 100. What’s a little disturbing in this study is that not only are 21 percent of corporate executives psychopathic, but so is the same percentage of prison inmates.

                        Also disturbing: this isn’t the first time researchers have noted psychopathic tendencies among senior executives. In research also reported by The Telegraph a few years ago, a psychologist warned of a growing number of “triadic persons” in the workplace who combine three types of dysfunctional personalities among white-collar workers: psychopath, Machiavellian, and narcissist. Such people, he warned “have a dangerous, yet effective mix of a lack of empathy, self-centeredness, deviousness and self-regard which can propel them to the top of the organizations.”
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                        • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          find something for you to do that's insanely horrible but necessary or just push you out the airlock, because there's no changing you.
                          Of personal interest: what's the most horrible job to hold in 2020 outside of enslavement by another person (including as VPOTUS or cabinet member)? Sometimes if I'm having a rough day I think of these guys (see 10th pic down). What's even worse?
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                          • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                            Originally posted by geezer View Post
                            Of personal interest: what's the most horrible job to hold in 2020 outside of enslavement by another person (including as VPOTUS or cabinet member)? Sometimes if I'm having a rough day I think of these guys (see 10th pic down). What's even worse?
                            I keep this link on my desktop at work. Whenever I feel the least bit sorry for myself I click it.

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                            • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              I've never read a better description of Dump.
                              Except Dump was born into it, and didn't have to lift a finger to get to the top.

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                              • Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

                                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                Except Dump was born into it, and didn't have to lift a finger to get to the top.
                                Oh, he's utterly incompetent, certainly.
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