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  • #976
    Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

    Originally posted by busterman62 View Post
    However, to say that my vote for a third party candidate benefits one major party candidate over another is mathematically incorrect
    No it's not.

    Let's assume a small town mayoral race with 4 voters. 2 people vote for X. 1 person votes for Y. You are the last vote. Your candidate rankings are Z>Y>X.

    If you vote for Z, X wins.

    If you vote for Y, you force a tie.

    By voting Z even though he cannot win, you give X the win even though he is your least favorite candidate.

    This is game theory 101. The moderate wing of the Democratic Party learned its lesson from the GOP in 2016 and consolidated before it was too late.

    If you're too principled to see that, then we can't change your mind, but you're still wrong.

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    • #977
      Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

      Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
      why isn't joeb telling the senators in his party to settle down and pass the bill already. so what if buy backs are limited for 2 yrs, isn't the plan to win everything in 7 months? then you can go in and ban them for good.

      so shortsighted, as always.

      they are so smart
      S M R T
      Cause it was a bad bill. .
      What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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      • #978
        Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

        The bill essentially gives large corporations who spent all their tax cut to do stock rebuys a 1/2 trillion dollar slush fund for bailout with no oversight. I don't blame Democrats for saying no.
        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • #979
          Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

          Originally posted by Rover View Post
          Wait, wouldn't you need the Goopers to go along with that? As in you'd have to get by the filibuster. mookie has an awful lot of trust in Itch McConnell to do the right thing!
          I would think, in light of what McConnell has done these last 12 years, that the filibuster goes the way of the dodo if the Dems regain control.

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          • #980
            Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

            Originally posted by Rover View Post
            Wait, wouldn't you need the Goopers to go along with that? As in you'd have to get by the filibuster. mookie has an awful lot of trust in Itch McConnell to do the right thing!
            dems pull nucluar option stop being nice

            get er done!!
            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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            • #981
              Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

              Originally posted by unofan View Post
              I would think, in light of what McConnell has done these last 12 years, that the filibuster goes the way of the dodo if the Dems regain control.
              yah, what he said
              a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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              • #982
                Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                Originally posted by rufus View Post
                Cause it was a bad bill. .
                optics.
                right now D are delaying checks to 'real americans' and adding to the 401k crash by saying no.
                a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                • #983
                  Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                  Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                  optics.
                  right now D are delaying checks to 'real americans' and adding to the 401k crash by saying no.
                  The "nice" thing about a mass human tragedy is optics and profit don't rank first in our concerns for once.

                  There actually are people who are trying to do the right thing.

                  They just aren't Republicans.
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                  • #984
                    Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                    Originally posted by unofan View Post
                    No it's not.

                    Let's assume a small town mayoral race with 4 voters. 2 people vote for X. 1 person votes for Y. You are the last vote. Your candidate rankings are Z>Y>X.

                    If you vote for Z, X wins.

                    If you vote for Y, you force a tie.

                    By voting Z even though he cannot win, you give X the win even though he is your least favorite candidate.

                    This is game theory 101. The moderate wing of the Democratic Party learned its lesson from the GOP in 2016 and consolidated before it was too late.

                    If you're too principled to see that, then we can't change your mind, but you're still wrong.
                    What if there are five voters and 2 vote for X and 2 vote for Y?
                    That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                    • #985
                      Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      The "nice" thing about a mass human tragedy is optics and profit don't rank first in our concerns for once.

                      There actually are people who are trying to do the right thing.

                      They just aren't Republicans.
                      better hope the one group has a bigger turnout in nov than the other
                      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                      • #986
                        Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                        What if there are five voters and 2 vote for X and 2 vote for Y?
                        Based on a tie, the candidate whose party controls the most states wins the presidency. So, if you hate candidate X, but really hate candidate Y, and therefore, you vote for candidate Z, and candidate Y’s party controls more states, candidate Y will become president.

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                        • #987
                          Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                          optics.
                          right now D are delaying checks to 'real americans' and adding to the 401k crash by saying no.
                          Dems want to pay you $1000/month til this is over. Mitch wants to give you a one-time $1200.
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • #988
                            Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                            Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                            What if there are five voters and 2 vote for X and 2 vote for Y?
                            What if you weren't a dik?
                            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                            • #989
                              Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                              Originally posted by rufus View Post
                              What if you weren't a dik?
                              I know this one! Then he would be my aunt! Right?
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                              • #990
                                Re: Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

                                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                                What if there are five voters and 2 vote for X and 2 vote for Y?
                                Then his vote for Z still helps X (absent instant runoff voting or other forms of ranked choice voting), because if he votes for Y instead, Y wins. By voting for Z, he creates a tie and keeps X alive.

                                This isn't that hard of a concept.
                                Last edited by unofan; 03-23-2020, 10:49 AM.

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