UCHC Playoffs

[Fishman'81]

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It makes the process the same as every other D3 team sport. But let's move along. Nothing (new) to see here.

True enough.

But simply because this is the usual BS does not lend the process any credence.

[NUProf]

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The USA played its way into the Gold Medal round, no gift-AQ's involved.

The USA was in the Olympics because the host country gets an outbid

[Fishman'81]

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The USA was in the Olympics because the host country gets an outbid

OK, you got me there, I suppose.

(Not looking that up, but I watched that game many hours later, when I was still in college, and through a window during a fire-drill! Still a fun memory.)

Anyhoo, that was 40 years ago. Nothing new about that, either.

[Fishman'81]

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Final score: Stevenson vs. Wilkes Game 1: Wilkes wins 7-5.

I was fairly sure that that series would be a dog-fight. Those two teams are both pretty good.

We might even stream Game 2 once we get back from watching UC beat Naz tomorrow.

[Russell Jaslow]

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The USA was in the Olympics because the host country gets an outbid

Hate to throw Prof under the bus, but though that is technically true, USA would have qualified anyway under the rules of that day.

[NUProf]

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Hate to throw Prof under the bus, but though that is technically true, USA would have qualified anyway under the rules of that day.

SHHH! The important thing is that the host country always gets an autobid, even if they are China or Japan.

[UCBadger]

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So to change this fascinating discussion on pros and cons of...whatever this discussion is discussing....I would like to talk about the wisdom (or foolishness) of the two game series for the UCHC playoff semis and finals. If I remember correctly, the SUNYAC and ECAC-East(?) and perhaps one or more (mid---that's for you NUProf) western leagues used to do this, but ended that practice 10 year or so ago. Was the argument for going to a single game format that it might be less damaging to a tournament runner-up in the at-large pool since a runner-up might get 2-3 losses in the tournament (as apposed to just 1)?

[Birdwatcher]

So to change this fascinating discussion on pros and cons of...whatever this discussion is discussing....I would like to talk about the wisdom (or foolishness) of the two game series for the UCHC playoff semis and finals. If I remember correctly, the SUNYAC and ECAC-East(?) and perhaps one or more (mid---that's for you NUProf) western leagues used to do this, but ended that practice 10 year or so ago. Was the argument for going to a single game format that it might be less damaging to a tournament runner-up in the at-large pool since a runner-up might get 2-3 losses in the tournament (as apposed to just 1)?

The NCAA tourney was like that at one time as well.

[Russell Jaslow]

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So to change this fascinating discussion on pros and cons of...whatever this discussion is discussing....I would like to talk about the wisdom (or foolishness) of the two game series for the UCHC playoff semis and finals. If I remember correctly, the SUNYAC and ECAC-East(?) and perhaps one or more (mid---that's for you NUProf) western leagues used to do this, but ended that practice 10 year or so ago. Was the argument for going to a single game format that it might be less damaging to a tournament runner-up in the at-large pool since a runner-up might get 2-3 losses in the tournament (as apposed to just 1)?

I’ve been thinking the exact same thing recently. I’ve thought of it from the angle with the PWR, is it as damaging anymore? Especially since the weighted factors of record in last 20 games and record against teams in contention are no longer used.

[Russell Jaslow]

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The NCAA tourney was like that at one time as well.

But that has nothing to do with Badger's question.

[UCBadger]

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I’ve been thinking the exact same thing recently. I’ve thought of it from the angle with the PWR, is it as damaging anymore? Especially since the weighted factors of record in last 20 games and record against teams in contention are no longer used.

That is probably very true! Thanks Mr. Jaslow.

I remember when the first rounds of the NCAA's were two game, total goal contests (prior to 1989), as were some league championships. I had Saturday night tickets for 1980-81 Badgers season. In the first round of the WCHA tournament that year, Wisconsin defeated Colorado College 8-2 on Saturday, but lost the next day 11-4 and lost the two game total goal series 13-12 on what became to be known as Black Sunday. Wisconsin, not getting the league auto bid to the NCAA's, were however picked by the committee in the smoke filled room as an at large bid. The Badgers won their third national championship that year, defeating Univ of Minnesota, after becoming known as "The Backdoor Badgers."
Point of this? Win your tournament and earn your way to the NCAA's, get picked as an at-large team, and get there the cheap way....but if you win you are still the National Champion.

[UCBadger]

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Pioneer apparent (well, to some anyway) goal waved off in final 4 seconds of the 2nd period. However, UC scored on ensuring face off (goal at 19:59.2) and leads 2-1 after 2. Shots favor UC 20-17.

[NUProf]

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The resurgence of the 2 game series is aimed a making it less likely that an early round upset of a top team will keep them out of the tournament finals. That should be something that Fish would support. I like the concept of the two game series, but I'd like a series that ends up 1-1 or 0-0-2 to be finished with a full game the next day.

[Russell Jaslow]

The resurgence of the 2 game series is aimed a making it less likely that an early round upset of a top team will keep them out of the tournament finals. That should be something that Fish would support. I like the concept of the two game series, but I'd like a series that ends up 1-1 or 0-0-2 to be finished with a full game the next day.

The SUNYAC did for a few years have a full fledged three-game series ... for the finals only. Some of the best hockey I’ve ever seen were in those series. (Caveat — the series could end 1-0-1. Only the third game played OT till a winner was decided.)

[UCBadger]

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Utica takes the first game 5-2.