Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

[J.D.]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Not sure what I would need to work on but ok...

I don't think anyone should ever vote for someone just because they are the nominee of a particular party. Not sure if you meant that for all situations or just here because of the outlier that is Trump.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

I, for one, am a Bernie skeptic. I think he's just another careerist who happens to be loud about his agenda, but won't get the results even if he is elected. Bernie Bros do not believe in compromise, and they're going to eviscerate him as a sell-out when he's forced to do it, even if Dems control both houses (unlikely).

[Jimjamesak]

I, for one, am a Bernie skeptic. I think he's just another careerist who happens to be loud about his agenda, but won't get the results even if he is elected. Bernie Bros do not believe in compromise, and they're going to eviscerate him as a sell-out when he's forced to do it, even if Dems control both houses (unlikely).

If there’s any lesson from the past four years, it’s if Bernie can’t get his agenda passed then his supporters will work OT to try unseat politicians not on board.

[ticapnews]

Let me guess, you're talking with a lot of people of color under the age of 50 who make under 100k a year.

Lots of PoC up here in Maine. One of the six most diverse states in New England!

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Trump can beat anyone in the field. Anyone who thinks otherwise is exactly why he won in the first place.

Dump can beat and beaten by anyone in the field. Dump's vote is stable: the morons of the country. There are a lot of them, about 63M.

So that leaves getting a nominee who creates enthusiasm. We need to do exactly the opposite of what we did in 2016. Sanders is one such candidate, who generates excitement because of his policies and because he is not beholden to the Democratic forces who, through ineptitude or intentionally, hamstrung economic justice in the US for the last 40 years.

I don't see anybody else capable of creating a movement. I thought Warren was another possible choice but for whatever quirk of mass psychology she just doesn't appeal to Ma and Pa Kettle. So that leaves Sanders.

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Lots of PoC up here in Maine. One of the six most diverse states in New England!

I hear you make New Hampshire look like Vermont.

[ticapnews]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Um I was not the one who first brought up messiah. Lighten up.

Sorry. I just watched Life of Brian again so I had Messiah on the brain.

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Trump can beat anyone in the field. Anyone who thinks otherwise is exactly why he won in the first place.

Agreed, I think some candidates have a better chance than others against him but incumbents always have a decent shot at winning.

[J.D.]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Agreed, I think some candidates have a better chance than others against him

That's what I am saying. And if the end goal is to get Trump out of office no matter what, that has to be considered.

[rufus]

Oh I know he *can*, I just think there is a certain type of democrat who would have a better chance of beating him than Sanders. Maybe I am underestimating the appeal of Bernie, we'll see.

And milquetoast is that type of Democrat.


Trump already decimated Jeb. You want that again?

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Dump can beat and beaten by anyone in the field. Dump's vote is stable: the morons of the country. There are a lot of them, about 63M.

So that leaves getting a nominee who creates enthusiasm. We need to do exactly the opposite of what we did in 2016. Sanders is one such candidate, who generates excitement because of his policies and because he is not beholden to the Democratic forces who, through ineptitude or intentionally, hamstrung economic justice in the US for the last 40 years.

I don't see anybody else capable of creating a movement. I thought Warren was another possible choice but for whatever quirk of mass psychology she just doesn't appeal to Ma and Pa Kettle. So that leaves Sanders.

At this point, I think I'm basically forced to agree.

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Dump can beat and beaten by anyone in the field. Dump's vote is stable: the morons of the country. There are a lot of them, about 63M.

So that leaves getting a nominee who creates enthusiasm. We need to do exactly the opposite of what we did in 2016. Sanders is one such candidate, who generates excitement because of his policies and because he is not beholden to the Democratic forces who, through ineptitude or intentionally, hamstrung economic justice in the US for the last 40 years.

I don't see anybody else capable of creating a movement. I thought Warren was another possible choice but for whatever quirk of mass psychology she just doesn't appeal to Ma and Pa Kettle. So that leaves Sanders.

I would also argue he's by far the most likely to turn out non-traditional voters.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

If there’s any lesson from the past four years, it’s if Bernie can’t get his agenda passed then his supporters will work OT to try unseat politicians not on board.

Which is kind of terrifying. It's one thing to primary some entrenched fossil who needed to call it a career years ago, it's another entirely to throw the baby out with the bath water because your Congresscritter agreed to only 70% of what you wanted in a healthcare deal.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Which is kind of terrifying. It's one thing to primary some entrenched fossil who needed to call it a career years ago, it's another entirely to throw the baby out with the bath water because your Congresscritter agreed to only 70% of what you wanted in a healthcare deal.

Depends on how hard it is to deprogram people from thinking the government isn't involved in their Social Security or Medicare. Cause if it is, that's socialism by the current definition.

[BassAle]

And milquetoast is that type of Democrat.


Trump already decimated Jeb. You want that again?

Jeb probably would have destroyed Hillary with Comeys help.


You guys are living in a bubble. The average democrat and independent voter wants a bland milquetoast democrat to vote for in the general

This is coming from a guy that would like to raise taxes, legalize most drugs and prostitution and end mass incarceration (and focus on addiction treatment and fighting human trafficking), banning the death penalty, cut the military budget in at least half, repeal the second amendment, free community college and trade schools, public option at a minimum, taxing carbon, addressing k-12 funding inequality, etc