Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

[ticapnews]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Would rather make this country good

Make America Great Again?

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

If you don't think Bernie is extreme...I have to say this convo is now done. It just is.

A Moderate Left seems extreme when we've been living in a country dominated by the Extreme Right for the last 2 generations.

The country is moving on from our prejudices, Rube. Economic as well as social. Let it go. They will make their world, and it has to be better than the one we've made the last 40 years. The Third Way was a total failure. It's going onto the ash heap of history.

[ticapnews]

A Moderate Left seems extreme when we've been living in a country dominated by the Extreme Right for the last 2 generations.

The country is moving on from our prejudices, Rube. Economic as well as social. Let it go. They will make their world, and it has to be better than the one we've made the last 40 years. The Third Way was a total failure. It's going onto the ash heap of history.

Cut to a scene with Rube carrying a Tiki-Torch while he and his fellow marchers chant "You will not replace us!"

[mookie1995]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

But please, keep making the joke. It's as fresh and original as it was all those years ago.

know your audience

(keep asking when the benefits from Brexit will be rolling in )

[mookie1995]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Or we can improve this country, which the last 40 years' retreat from "socialism" has turned into a disaster.

The dog whistles aren't working anymore, mookie. That terror the rich drummed into the masses' heads all those years only mesmerized them as long as they still had a marginally better life than their parents to look forward to. But the 1% couldn't leave well enough alone and instead they tried to roll back the New Deal and Make America 1893 Again. And we've had enough.

Sous les pavés, la plage!

but it is the browns fault!!! not the 1%

pay attention man

[BassAle]

Next time it snows, make sure you tell the snowplow driver not to plow in front of your place. Get out there and shovel it yourself. And don't drive on those roads. Walk through the woods. And if your house catches fire, grab the garden hose and fight the fire yourself. DO NOT CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT!!! Those are examples of evil Socialism. Using them would be "selling your soul"

https://thehumanist.com/commentary/what-is-socialism

[BassAle]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/22/polit...ada/index.html

I think he’s speaking to some on this thread:

We can prioritize either ideological purity or inclusive victory. We can either call people names online or we can call them into our movement.

[BassAle]

Because the alternative worked so well in 2016.

She would have been a million times better than Trump. I would t assume Bernie will fair so much better in the election.

The Russian bot “but her emails” Facebook posts are going to be “but socialism”. See Rube for how that will play out.

[unofan]

The country is moving on from our prejudices, Rube.

I'll believe it when I see it. Because the "vote Blue no matter who" crowd is still larger in the aggregate than true Bernie/AOC supporters. Yeah, you'll get us for this election, but then you've got to hold us together 2 and 4 years later. I have my doubts about that.

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Unfortunate headline.

[rufus]

It wasn't expected to be this big, and Sanders wasn't expected to win Latinx (he did) or do well with blacks (he did).

The MSM Meme Machine is going to have a problem Monday.

I post this again.

The question, then, is why they would bother to make this obviously facile and unconvincing comparison in the first place. That answer has two parts. One is that none of these people are really much good at their very important jobs. The other is that they are scared, because Sanders’s ongoing run toward the Democratic nomination suggests that a critical mass of voters has noticed as much, and is ignoring them. If there’s any real parallel to be drawn between Trump and Sanders, it’s how their respective rises have revealed the flubby redundancy of their respective parties’ establishments.

[rufus]

All I know is if Sanders gets the nom, then your wing of the party had better be right on this decision to go all-in and drag us with you, or else we can permanently kiss any return to American normalcy goodbye.

If Bernie gets elected, what is the worst possible thing he could do to this country? The absolute most damaging?

[rufus]

Not just someone else. Just Bernie. I'm not going to discard my values just because that person is not Trump. Trump needs to be gone. I'll be clear on that. But I will not sell my soul, so to speak, to get rid of him. No, I will not vote for him. But I will also not vote for Bernie. Frankly, anyone else in the field? It ranges from "begrudgingly accept" to "open arms," depending on the candidate.

I say again. If Bernie gets elected, what is the worst possible thing he could do to this country? The absolute most damaging?

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Next time it snows, make sure you tell the snowplow driver not to plow in front of your place. Get out there and shovel it yourself. And don't drive on those roads. Walk through the woods. And if your house catches fire, grab the garden hose and fight the fire yourself. DO NOT CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT!!! Those are examples of evil Socialism. Using them would be "selling your soul"

It's a matter of shifting the Overton Window definition of "essential services" in America. Police, fire, and roads have been deemed essential by almost everyone. Healthcare is getting there, but the GOP still has a majority of the country entrenched in the belief that Medicare for All will bankrupt the country, force conservative Xtians to pay for abortions and trans surgeries, and lead to death panels.

[rufus]

You're correct. I'm not going to sacrifice some extreme values for other extreme values. To put a modern spin on it, I shall not be bullied to give up certain values that I consider dear to me.

College paid for with tax dollars, wealthy paying more taxes, healthcare paid for with tax dollars vs. children in concentration camps, and the end of our democratic republic and the rule of law for authoritarian rule instead.

Yep, extreme values on both sides.

You're a fukkin' idiot.