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Thread: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    An alarmist would say there won't be that many progressives left to rise up. But that's silly. There are typically lots of opposition parties in Fascist countries. Authoritarians love it when people challenge their power.
    We’ll find out soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Yes I do. I didnt always, and I dont think he will ever be able to have a stranglehold like Hitler did in Europe because North America is set up differently. That said there is no one on the Right willing to stop him so he has millions of followers who will live and die by the words he says and who will spit in the face (or worse) of anyone who dares challenge him even for a second.

    Conventional wisdom is that Presidents feel more free to enact their true policies in their second term. If he feels emboldened enough in his first term to pull the crap he has pulled what will he do when there is literally no way to stop him? He wont be impeached again, and no matter what he suggests his Party will back him. If he said he wanted a third term they would use previous precedents like FDR to justify it and 63 million people would dance and chant and allow it. We already know he will use the DOJ to protect him and his friends so what is the next logical step? You really think he isnt going to weaponize it against his enemies. (stronger than he already does?) Who is going to stop him? Congress? (not unless the Dems take the Senate) The Courts? (not a chance especially the SC) This guy lives to make himself look better you really think he is going to not take every advantage?

    I mean he has basically said he thinks the liberal justices on the SC should recuse themselves from his cases...and no one is criticizing him outside of the liberals. Mitt dared make a meaningless vote on Impeachment against the President and even his conservative friends shunned him. This isnt Dubya being stupid, this is a man controlling the Party in ways we dont normally see here.

    If he wins in November he will build his wall, he will go to war, he will lock up everyone he can think of and he will shame all those who dont agree as traitors. And even on the off chance he is forced to quit after two terms he has 3 dumbass psycho kids with even worse ideas and worse temperaments waiting in the wings. The GOP has to be stopped.

    (this is where you tell me I am crazy)
    Heh, you might be crazy but I respect the analysis you put in. I just have a hard time believing we would let things get to that point despite what he has been able to get away with thus far. And I also don't think his motivation is to fully become Hitler and start murdering Jews, etc.

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    Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Heh, you might be crazy but I respect the analysis you put in. I just have a hard time believing we would let things get to that point despite what he has been able to get away with thus far. And I also don't think his motivation is to fully become Hitler and start murdering Jews, etc.
    Who do you think is going to stop him?

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    Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Heh, you might be crazy but I respect the analysis you put in. I just have a hard time believing we would let things get to that point despite what he has been able to get away with thus far. And I also don't think his motivation is to fully become Hitler and start murdering Jews, etc.
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    Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Lol at faux outraged. Most people don't present the Hitler comparison like you just did. So if you are worried that he has early Hitler year tendencies...ok. But that's not how it's typically presented.

    So let me ask you this. Even though he could share characteristics, do you think Trump would ever become what Hitler became? Guess we'll never know since he'll be out of the office unless he appoints himself President for life. But as a hypothetical I say no, we wouldn't be in danger of what Nazi Germany ultimately became. I don't see any way we would allow that to happen nor do I think that is his intention where as I would imagine Hitler had his grand plan in mind all along.
    Didn't think we'd allow him to use the justice department to let his buddies skate, and attack his enemies, but here we are. Didn't see where we'd allow him to use the powers of his office against a political opponent, but here we are. Didn't think that once discovered, we'd give him a pass and let him keep right on doing it, but here we are.

    Three small steps on the way to fascism. What have you seen that says he will be stopped from taking more?
    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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