Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

[rufus]

If I am not worth the time, why do you keep responding to my posts?

Now, run away, son.

Oh, you're worth my time to put down on this board.

Not worth my time to search back through the years to find the posts where you linked to or quoted white supremacist chit.

Don't want to be thought of as a sympathizer? Quit posting their chit.

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Idk if I’ve ever seen rube link to right wing sources or anything like what you’re mentioning but when he uncritically regurgitates a lot of their talking points (eg immigration) that’s already bad enough.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

When Hitler started off, he was elected by popular vote, and Hindenburg thought he could be a moderating influence. He also began on a platform of rebuilding the military and the economy, and merely containing the 'undesired' population - the Final Solution and the death camps didn't come until much later.

If you can't see the parallels - curtail immigration, build the wall, end DACA, lock them up, kids in cages, "fake news"(Lügenpresse), send the ones from "sh*thole countries" back home, maybe I should serve more than two terms if you want me to, etc. etc., then I can't help you.

You’re forgetting “purging the gov of all people who aren’t in complete fealty to dear leader.”

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

You’re forgetting “purging the gov of all people who aren’t in complete fealty to dear leader.”

To be fair, I suppose Dump hasn't had to go all "Night of the Long Knives" on the bit yet. So until then, I guess it's just "unfair" of us to make any Hitler comparisons.

[The Rube]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Idk if I’ve ever seen rube link to right wing sources or anything like what you’re mentioning but when he uncritically regurgitates a lot of their talking points (eg immigration) that’s already bad enough.

You mean how I welcome all legal immigrants, and encourage them to come here? Our immigration system needs fixing, to be sure. It needs to be streamlined. But I will not shun anyone who wants to come here, and goes through the proper processes. I don't care who they are, or where they come from. Pass a background check, get your green card/temp status (the latter being a minimum), you're good to go.

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

And that take would be fine if we had a sane immigration system currently in place but we don’t.

[The Rube]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

And that take would be fine if we had a sane immigration system currently in place but we don’t.

I realize we don't, hence my hope that we fix it.

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

And that’s fine but wanting to deport everyone who is currently here illegally but is otherwise a productive member that contributes positively to our society is where you lose people.

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

and I'll get this off my chest - calling Trump or anyone else a Nazi - belittles everything the victims of real Nazism went through

You're wrong. Movies have trained us to think of Nazism as some sort of supernatural force because of the scale of murder it engendered, but that's not because it was categorically more evil than Dump and the current Republican party. It's just that it attained the absolute power that Dump and the Republicans now seek.

All the thought processes of current American conservatism -- xenophobia, intolerance, racism, sexism, violence, vengeance, paranoia -- are exactly the same as those of Nazism. It is the flowering of the Authoritarian Mind, which is always the same, and always lies dormant like a virus. They are mutations of the same diseased right wing world view. The magnitude of the damage it inflicts is just a measure of how much power it has to enact its agenda.

Auschwitz is the sole logical end point of reactionary authoritarian thinking. The only reason it isn't as bad yet here is it still is opposed. If we stop fighting Republicans, the world will die.

Did you think the German people were monsters? Not at all. They were just led by monsters. The people themselves were the same as everyone everywhere is: a few heroes, a few opportunists, and a huge bulk of the lazy, the disinterested, and those willing to delude themselves as long as they detected some self-interest in the path being followed. In other words, 1930s Germans were identical to 2020's Americans. Apologists and supporters of Dump are Good Germans. They look like everybody else because they are.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

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— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) February 23, 2020

[huskyfan]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

I still maintain calling others "Nazi" when all they do is disagree with your ideas is a dangerous precedent. It demeans what the actual victims of Nazism went through. It puts you dangerously close to the deniers.

Have you ever wondered why "Nazi" stood for National SOCIALIST? Yeah, the government ran the economy. Even though private ownership was maintained, the government told you what you were going to make, how much of it, what your markets were and in some case what kind of labor you were going to use.

Of course the German people - most of them - were implicit. They worked in the camps, as police officers, as guards, as office help. They knew what the camps were for. They knew what Hilter and his cronies were doing to the Jews, the disabled, the Gypsies, homosexuals, the Poles, to prisoners of war, etc. They lived side by side by the camps, they knew what the smoke meant. They read his book, they heard his speeches, they heard the news. Even with his suicide and the German collapse, Hilter still had overwhelming support of the German people. Why do you think we went with unconditional surrender and the Nuremberg trials and the de-Nazification of Germany? We needed to stamp of that generation and their twisted thinking. Unfortunately, I think we can all agree, these current day skin head psychos are an ugly throwback.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Oh man the Bernie is a socialist who are nazis argument has begun? This is peak irony

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

jfc

[state of hockey]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

*breathes in deeply*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[rufus]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

I realize we don't, hence my hope that we fix it.

Not voting for Bernie because 'principles' isn't gonna do that.