Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

[J.D.]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Again if you can't even acknowledge the flaws of universal healthcare there's no point in arguing. I am not saying the current system is great but there is no perfect system out there. It has to be something in between.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

No. This is a bad argument. While current wait times might be "bad", they get worse under a universal healthcare system.

I’ve worked in some. Have you? Or are you just repeating the standard scare tactics?

[J.D.]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Scare tactics? I work in the healthcare industry. If you want to ignore facts involving universal healthcare go right ahead.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Again if you can't even acknowledge the flaws of universal healthcare there's no point in arguing. I am not saying the current system is great but there is no perfect system out there. It has to be something in between.

Who here said there aren’t flaws?

[Rover]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

You are being oddly reasonable and cogent lately.

Doing my part to avoid us eating our own. Oh, I did come into some unexpected money recently as well.

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Again if you can't even acknowledge the flaws of universal healthcare there's no point in arguing. I am not saying the current system is great but there is no perfect system out there. It has to be something in between.

This is a logical fallacy.

[J.D.]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Let me ask this...is there a democratic candidate who has proposed changes to the system but will allow you to keep what you have now? I didn't think that's what Bernie had in mind.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Let me ask this...is there a democratic candidate who has proposed changes to the system but will allow you to keep what you have now? I didn't think that's what Bernie had in mind.

lmao

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Scare tactics? I work in the healthcare industry. If you want to ignore facts involving universal healthcare go right ahead.

No. After having worked in multiple universal systems, I think I have a decent handle on them.

Would I prefer a Finnish , Swiss or Singapore system? Sure.

Universal care is better for most people. No more bankruptcies, denial of simple care. Sure, right now you don’t care as you have coverage you can afford but it’s not like that for many, many people.

[ticapnews]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Sanders has already spelled out what his proposals are, how much they cost (and save) and how he will pay for them. The fact you haven't read them isn't his fault.

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Doing my part to avoid us eating our own. Oh, I did come into some unexpected money recently as well.

I've actually been feeling a lot more generous since Sanders became the front runner.

[Rover]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Let me ask this...is there a democratic candidate who has proposed changes to the system but will allow you to keep what you have now? I didn't think that's what Bernie had in mind.

All of them except for Sanders and maybe Warren. Sounds like you're in Buttigieg's camp (Medicare for all who choose it).

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

lmao

Example of a person who is just gone. Facts won’t resonate

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Sanders has already spelled out what his proposals are, how much they cost (and save) and how he will pay for them. The fact you haven't read them isn't his fault.

Kind of. In an intellectual debate you are correct because each party has the burden of informing themselves. But in a campaign it is the responsibility of the candidate to deliver this information again and again and again with a spoonful of sugar to every facet of the audience. Sanders needs to have peer reviewed position papers for the smarties, bumper stickers and ad jingles for the dummies, and bullet list talking points for the media. He has to do all the heavy lifting for a public that is lazy and stupid and whose vote is the only thing that matters.

[Rover]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Guys, this is not the way to consolidate support. Not everyone sees the glory of M4A right from the outset. I for one am perfectly willing to support Sanders once Warren drops out but questioning the viability of a M4A system doesn't make you a freakin' Republican.