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  • Its not even necessarily about a Trump presidency, though that definitely is advantageous for Putin. But ultimately the goal is to keep politics and the public divided, bickering and dysfunctional.
    Thats it.
    And this already existing narrative about "Bernie Bros" is perfect for the Russians to exploit to that end.

    Suggesting the Russians have determined Trump could beat Sanders and thats why they are carrying this out misses the point.

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    • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

      Originally posted by The Rube View Post
      Also true. Donnie has said he wanted Sanders, thinks that is the least likely contender to beat him.
      Yes, and every March before the bouncyball tournament some moron in the stands at Directional State University always holds up a sign that says they want Duke.

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      • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

        Dick van dyke endorses Bernie and implores seniors to do the same

        https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...m-older-voters

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        • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

          Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
          Yes, and every March before the bouncyball tournament some moron in the stands at Directional State University always holds up a sign that says they want Duke.
          Bernie is the most "socialist," so therefore, boom solid base against such things.
          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
          Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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          • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

            Originally posted by The Rube View Post
            Bernie is the most "socialist," so therefore, boom solid base against such things.
            Whomever gets the Democratic nomination will be a Socialist. If Bloomberg wins it Faux "News" will tell the cult that Mike studied at the knee of Karl Marx himself.

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            • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

              Take the how much of a communist are you test. I got 12%. Guess I'm headed to the reeducation camp.

              https://www.idrlabs.com/communism/test.php
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              • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                Dick van dyke endorses Bernie and implores seniors to do the same

                https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...m-older-voters
                Critical endorsement for Bern among the "Old Enough to Have Seen Dick Appear on 'To Tell the Truth'" demographic.

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                Take the how much of a communist are you test. I got 12%. Guess I'm headed to the reeducation camp.

                https://www.idrlabs.com/communism/test.php
                We're also planning to utilize Amazon Alexa to monitor your home for forthcoming mandatory Spanish/Arabic language laws. Any use of English, you go to gulag.

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                • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                  I took Joe's test - 31%

                  Your personal agreement with communism is low, indicating that you support few of communism’s principles as presented in classical Marxian literature. You most likely believe in the necessity of private property and private business, as well as the right to free economic association and individually-controlled production. You most likely also believe that individuals are more motivated by the prospect of personal gain than by serving the needs of some amorphous social group (such as “society”) that the individual perhaps never asked to be a part of.
                  The bolded parts are definitely right in line with my views. Pure communism only works on communal farms where people have agreed to live that way. Most people have no interest in that lifestyle, which is why mass-scale Soviet communism had to be enforced with the business end of a tank and the suspension of any rights to personal expression and self-determination.

                  That's also why Democrats aren't communists. But don't tell my relatives that!

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                  • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                    Yes, and every March before the bouncyball tournament some moron in the stands at Directional State University always holds up a sign that says they want Duke.
                    Honest question: Why do you think Russia wants to help Sanders?

                    It seems like the logical answer is they think he would be weak, or have a weakness they can easily exploit in the general. Pump him now, unleash the Facebook zombies against him later. Are they wrong? I’m not sure I’d want to bet against them — they know how to influence an election and are putting a lot of resources at this.

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                    • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      I took Joe's test - 31%



                      The bolded parts are definitely right in line with my views. Pure communism only works on communal farms where people have agreed to live that way. Most people have no interest in that lifestyle, which is why mass-scale Soviet communism had to be enforced with the business end of a tank and the suspension of any rights to personal expression and self-determination.

                      That's also why Democrats aren't communists. But don't tell my relatives that!
                      Communism would be the perfect system, but there's one flaw. The human trait of greed (in different forms).
                      1. The traditional "I want more than the Jones'."
                      2. We all get the same anyways, so why should I work as hard at my specific job that I'm good at?
                      3. The even more subtle: why should I work to be something really needed like a doctor or a teacher? I'll just be a ditch digger, and still get the same benefits.

                      Edit: got a 15% on the test. The greed factors played a part in many an answer.
                      Last edited by The Rube; 02-21-2020, 10:48 PM.
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                      Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                      • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                        Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                        Honest question: Why do you think Russia wants to help Sanders?
                        We've already been over this.

                        "It was not clear what role they're going to play. We were told that Russia, maybe other countries, are going to get involved in this campaign, and look, here's the message to Russia: stay out of American elections," Sanders said.

                        "And what they are doing, by the way, the ugly thing that they are doing, and I've seen some of their tweets and stuff, is they try to divide us up. That's what they did in 2016 and that is the ugliest thing they are doing -- is they are trying to cause chaos, they are trying to cause hatred in America."
                        Originally posted by Stauber1 View Post
                        Its not even necessarily about a Trump presidency, though that definitely is advantageous for Putin. But ultimately the goal is to keep politics and the public divided, bickering and dysfunctional.
                        Thats it.
                        And this already existing narrative about "Bernie Bros" is perfect for the Russians to exploit to that end.

                        Suggesting the Russians have determined Trump could beat Sanders and thats why they are carrying this out misses the point.
                        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        Actually they are doing it for to get the exact reaction you are giving them. They want infighting, that is the best chance to keep Trump in office.

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                        • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                          Putin's goal was always to disrupt America and split them over politics.

                          Trump getting elected was icing on the cake.

                          Think of it this way: you're doing well in a hockey game, making good passes, getting a goal or an assist, but then you get a natural hat trick, with the 3rd goal the GWG.

                          That's what Putin is doing/did.
                          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                          Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                          • Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                            Think of it this way: you're doing well in a hockey game, making good passes, getting a goal or an assist, but then you get a natural hat trick, with the 3rd goal the GWG.
                            Who is Jim Montgomery?

                            I'll take Potpourri for $600, Alex.

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                            • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                              Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                              Who is Jim Montgomery?

                              I'll take Potpourri for $600, Alex.
                              Nice try.

                              Did Putin expect Trump to win? And even now, does he really expect Trump to win? Who knows? Either way, America is divided. Trump being in charge is just a bonus to Putin.
                              Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                              Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                              • Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

                                If Putin really did want Sanders to win the nomination this timing sucks for him. Now all the concern trolls will say a vote for Bernie is a vote for Putin. If this information was going to get out at all, better in September or October as that would have caused the most destruction. OTOH, if Vlad wants to derail the campaign and hurt Bernie, 10 days before Super Tuesday is a great time.

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