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Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View PostWe haven’t played Wisconsin since the breakup of the oWCHA, and I can’t say anyone’s missed them. I’m not a Big hater, but other than Minnesota, I really don’t have any interest in any of their programs, and they certainly aren’t the national powers some of them used to be.AF 99
M-A-V-E-R-I-C-K-S, MAVERICKS, MAVERICKS, GOOOOO STATE!
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Re: New CCHA Back From The Ashes.
It may, Drew. I get that.
But I have to say this: if you're the nCCHA, and UAH fans raise $500k in four days with a GoFundMe during a freaking pandemic and you say, "Nah, y'all aren't committed enough?" That looks super, super ****ty on you.
I think that every last one of you knows that I know all of the problems that exist with having our program in a conference. I have already begun railing not for a rink but for paying for charters to all road games and for all road opponents to fly here directly. I do not have a sense of what that cost is, but it's just about table stakes. No one wants to change planes once or twice to get here. No one wants to fly to BNA or ATL and then hop a charter bus for 2-4 hours to get here. We don't want to do that outbound — it's why the team often spends 18 hours in a sleeper bus.
If you want to be truly committed, you fly out and you fly people in. People will shut the hell up if they go from their nearest airport that the plane can get into and get dropped right at HSV, where they hop a bus and ride 20 minutes to downtown to stay in a nice hotel a short walk from the rink. You cannot beat that with a stick. Where it goes from there? I don't know. But if you do that, you survive.
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Re: New CCHA Back From The Ashes.
Originally posted by gfmorris View PostIt may, Drew. I get that.
But I have to say this: if you're the nCCHA, and UAH fans raise $500k in four days with a GoFundMe during a freaking pandemic and you say, "Nah, y'all aren't committed enough?" That looks super, super ****ty on you.
I think that every last one of you knows that I know all of the problems that exist with having our program in a conference. I have already begun railing not for a rink but for paying for charters to all road games and for all road opponents to fly here directly. I do not have a sense of what that cost is, but it's just about table stakes. No one wants to change planes once or twice to get here. No one wants to fly to BNA or ATL and then hop a charter bus for 2-4 hours to get here. We don't want to do that outbound — it's why the team often spends 18 hours in a sleeper bus.
If you want to be truly committed, you fly out and you fly people in. People will shut the hell up if they go from their nearest airport that the plane can get into and get dropped right at HSV, where they hop a bus and ride 20 minutes to downtown to stay in a nice hotel a short walk from the rink. You cannot beat that with a stick. Where it goes from there? I don't know. But if you do that, you survive.
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Originally posted by Sol Diablo View PostI feel that UAH has always been committed, arguably more so than many in NCAA D1, arguably more so than many in the WCHA. But just my opinion.......
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Originally posted by gfmorris View PostIt may, Drew. I get that.
But I have to say this: if you're the nCCHA, and UAH fans raise $500k in four days with a GoFundMe during a freaking pandemic and you say, "Nah, y'all aren't committed enough?" That looks super, super ****ty on you.Co-Founder/Editor of BGSUHockey.com
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Originally posted by gfmorris View PostIt may, Drew. I get that.
But I have to say this: if you're the nCCHA, and UAH fans raise $500k in four days with a GoFundMe during a freaking pandemic and you say, "Nah, y'all aren't committed enough?" That looks super, super ****ty on you.
I think that every last one of you knows that I know all of the problems that exist with having our program in a conference. I have already begun railing not for a rink but for paying for charters to all road games and for all road opponents to fly here directly. I do not have a sense of what that cost is, but it's just about table stakes. No one wants to change planes once or twice to get here. No one wants to fly to BNA or ATL and then hop a charter bus for 2-4 hours to get here. We don't want to do that outbound — it's why the team often spends 18 hours in a sleeper bus.
If you want to be truly committed, you fly out and you fly people in. People will shut the hell up if they go from their nearest airport that the plane can get into and get dropped right at HSV, where they hop a bus and ride 20 minutes to downtown to stay in a nice hotel a short walk from the rink. You cannot beat that with a stick. Where it goes from there? I don't know. But if you do that, you survive.
GFM
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Re: New CCHA Back From The Ashes.
Would the new CCHA even entertain bringing aboard UAH, or just stick to its "original" seven with no geographic outliers, even if it would mean an even # of teams?"No matter where you go, there you are"
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Originally posted by bcmsu9196 View PostWould the new CCHA even entertain bringing aboard UAH, or just stick to its "original" seven with no geographic outliers, even if it would mean an even # of teams?
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Re: New CCHA Back From The Ashes.
Originally posted by gfmorris View PostBut I have to say this: if you're the nCCHA, and UAH fans raise $500k in four days with a GoFundMe during a freaking pandemic and you say, "Nah, y'all aren't committed enough?" That looks super, super ****ty on you.
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Re: New CCHA Back From The Ashes.
Originally posted by gfmorris View PostBut I have to say this: if you're the nCCHA, and UAH fans raise $500k in four days with a GoFundMe during a freaking pandemic and you say, "Nah, y'all aren't committed enough?" That looks super, super ****ty on you.
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Originally posted by gfmorris View PostI'm sorry, I blacked out from the lack of oxygen from laughing so hard. Here, let me give you EJ Brophy's number.
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Please enlighten me.
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Originally posted by BGDrew View PostHow committed is a university that has cut the program twice in a decade though? There is no denying that when faced with a cut your fan base can raise a big chunk of money in a few days. But there needs to be an actual commitment from the university to quell the doubts about the program’s long term health.
Originally posted by pdt1081 View PostI wouldn't expect an announcement from the CCHA anytime soon. You need a plan with action, first. Some announcements of a couple big donations, and maybe even a shovel in the dirt. There has to be something sustainable for more than a year. What you guys just did is awesome, but it's not a commitment yet.
Originally posted by bcmsu9196 View PostWould the new CCHA even entertain bringing aboard UAH, or just stick to its "original" seven with no geographic outliers, even if it would mean an even # of teams?
Originally posted by DavidNardolillo View PostI have the same question. Why would UAH be considered for the new CCHA when they weren't in the original group? I am assuming that the other 7 schools don't want them in the conference. Surely UAH would have wanted to be included if that was an option, right? Seems even less likely the new CCHA schools would be interested now. What am I missing here?
Originally posted by DavidNardolillo View PostI am glad that UAH is back, and I hope it stays. But there is a flip side to this. Yes $750k in four days has been great, but UAH has been trying to endow the program for years, and the same folks who donated now presumably ignored them before, knowing full well the program was scraping by. It took threatening to yank the program to engage the donor base. At best, that's a mixed signal, regardless of whether the previous fundraising inertia is the fault of the school, alumni, or both. I hope this episode finally engages the resources to put the program on solid ground.
Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostTo play devil's advocate if I'm the nCCHA commish - that tells me that you have a small group of passionate fans, but you lack long-term institutional support.
Originally posted by Sol Diablo View PostSo didn't Brophy agree to subsidize travel of many WCHA to Huntsville, thus indicating UAH is highly committed to hockey? Didn't fans just raise a nice chunk of money to keep the program alive? Didn't the nCCHA basically kick 3 teams out of the WCHA? I must be missing something here.
Please enlighten me.
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