UNH Hockey: Where Do We Go From Here....

[scoreboard]

Lol, it was so readily apparent where you thought it originated. That’s why you used it as ‘proof’ you weren’t being xenophobic and were simply using an established system of naming flus. Except you were entirely wrong (which, yes I know, you can never admit too because of the whole can of worms that might open up)...

Labeling this a Chinese Flu is neither a scientific term or a common term for this virus - it’s your desperate attempt to pass the buck, absolve your boy and pretend nothing could possibly have been done to slow this issue that was and is also not really a big deal except it’s bad but we’re on top of it but it’s bad but we’re doing perfect....

Don’t act like a no it all if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

It is amazing you can read people’s minds. Read my post. I was commenting on the name of the flu. Also, in the same post I called it a Chinese virus not the flu as you insinuate. Your ego is far more developed than you reading comprehension. Absolve my boy and the rest of that comment. Where does that come from? Don’t put words in my mouth. Were you the kid shoved in the gym locker back in the day or are you a modern day Al Bundy? You certainly have a chip on your shoulder.
I’m a “no” it all? Ha!

[Dan]

It is amazing you can read people’s minds. Read my post. I was commenting on the name of the flu. Also, in the same post I called it a Chinese virus not the flu as you insinuate. Your ego is far more developed than you reading comprehension. Absolve my boy and the rest of that comment. Where does that come from? Don’t put words in my mouth. Were you the kid shoved in the gym locker back in the day or are you a modern day Al Buddy? You certainly have a chip on your shoulder.
I’m a “no” it all? Ha!

Sure Jan.

Sorry for the typo. My mistake. See how easy that is...

[Aerman]

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Which Ebola? If I’m not mistaken (a risky proposition) the multiple strains carry names of both places and people, I.e. Mayinga. Each of them having originated in Africa, naming the continent or even country would be inadequate. As for Covid-19, I’m surprised it’s not widely referred to as the Wuhan virus.

[HockeyRef]

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Which Ebola? If I’m not mistaken (a risky proposition) the multiple strains carry names of both places and people, I.e. Mayinga. Each of them having originated in Africa, naming the continent or even country would be inadequate. As for Covid-19, I’m surprised it’s not widely referred to as the Wuhan virus.

Hey there...I'm talking about the African outbreak in the 1970's and there was one more recently there as well. I am not aware of other places this has cropped up as you mention...And initially, yeah, the Wuhan virus; kind of like the 'AIDS Virus' which as I said somewhere, it correct. Me? I just have that preference to call it what science settles on in the end. You say tomato?

Speaking of Covid-19; the way I (and of course this is alllll spelled out at the C-19 thread) understand it is the slate of illnesses that results of contracting the novel coronavirus. Which originated in Wuhan, China. Soooo there we are! That wasn't so risky, was it??

[Chuck Murray]

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I am all for standing together...but hows about the president knock off his twitter tirades? Or call female reporters questions nasty? I'd have more respect for him but he does not warrant it.

If the President got anything approaching remotely fair coverage from the MSM for the last 3+ years, you'd have a point, HR. But Twitter (to which I don't belong/subscribe/whatever) is his only way to get his message out on his terms, and for once the MSM doesn't get to have full control of the narrative over a GOP president. And it drives the MSM into the depths of TDS. So I'm good with it in general.

I don't think any of us have ever said the guy is perfect. But given the alternatives in 2016 - a lot of same old, same old GOP'ers, and a horrendously corrupt, underqualified and unlikable Dem nominee, he seized the opportunity, kept a ton of promises to his base, and hasn't been the lapdog GOP prez the MSM and Dems have trampled over since the post-Reagan days.

You don't have to like him, and I don't expect you'll ever vote for him. But I will, and most others who did in 2016 will likely do so again in 8 months' time. Unless of course the President decides to postpone the election until 2024, which suits me just fine.

( … that's a joke, just like when he says he might keep running ad infinitum, to wind you guys up … )

Yeah its really despicable how THEY knew what this was, weren’t up front about it and hesitate(d) to deal with it out of arrogance...

It's not that complicated, Dan. The Communist Chinese - totalitarian dictatorship, command economy, using virtual slave labor, and without question the most truly racist (in the actual literal meaning of the word) regime currently on the face of this planet, experienced some boo-boo in Wuhan Province in China in late 2019 which appears to have had an animal-to-human transmission, and then went over to human-to-human transmission in early 2020. I believe both the WHO and CDC offered their support and intervention at some point during that stretch. And to the surprise of absolutely no one, the totalitarians in the Chinese Politburo said "no thanks, freedom loving capitalist pigs, nothing to see here, we got this, bye" or something to that effect.

So … the Chinese started it, the Chinese refused help with intervention, Trump shuts down travel to/from China (which I believe Canada was still allowing through earlier today) … and yet you falsely try to equate Chinese and US conduct. Seek help, please.

In the meantime, on the other side of the world, we have total unredeemable *****clown hacks like Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff (talk about "Captain Arrogance") trying to ram a totally bogus impeachment on the President. If we're going to play Monday Morning QB on Trump for every last little thing he does or doesn't do to set off his media critics or Democrats (apologies for repeating myself) ... maybe, just maybe, everyone (including the oxygen thieves on Capitol Hill) would have had a little more free time and focus to be out there actually doing the people's business, and maybe getting an even better jump on this thing?

Anyway, that's my token post for the evening, Dan. Take your victory lap about all of your other stuff I'm not responding to (and keep fooling yourself that any of it deserves a response), as if you didn't ignore a ton of stuff I posted. Unlike you, I don't think my $h!t is ice cream. Have a good one.

[HockeyRef]

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If the President got anything approaching remotely fair coverage from the MSM for the last 3+ years, you'd have a point, HR. But Twitter (to which I don't belong/subscribe/whatever) is his only way to get his message out on his terms, and for once the MSM doesn't get to have full control of the narrative over a GOP president. And it drives the MSM into the depths of TDS. So I'm good with it in general.

I don't think any of us have ever said the guy is perfect. But given the alternatives in 2016 - a lot of same old, same old GOP'ers, and a horrendously corrupt, underqualified and unlikable Dem nominee, he seized the opportunity, kept a ton of promises to his base, and hasn't been the lapdog GOP prez the MSM and Dems have trampled over since the post-Reagan days.

You don't have to like him, and I don't expect you'll ever vote for him. But I will, and most others who did in 2016 will likely do so again in 8 months' time. Unless of course the President decides to postpone the election until 2024, which suits me just fine.

( … that's a joke, just like when he says he might keep running ad infinitum, to wind you guys up … )



It's not that complicated, Dan. The Communist Chinese - totalitarian dictatorship, command economy, using virtual slave labor, and without question the most truly racist (in the actual literal meaning of the word) regime currently on the face of this planet, experienced some boo-boo in Wuhan Province in China in late 2019 which appears to have had an animal-to-human transmission, and then went over to human-to-human transmission in early 2020. I believe both the WHO and CDC offered their support and intervention at some point during that stretch. And to the surprise of absolutely no one, the totalitarians in the Chinese Politburo said "no thanks, freedom loving capitalist pigs, nothing to see here, we got this, bye" or something to that effect.

So … the Chinese started it, the Chinese refused help with intervention, Trump shuts down travel to/from China (which I believe Canada was still allowing through earlier today) … and yet you falsely try to equate Chinese and US conduct. Seek help, please.

In the meantime, on the other side of the world, we have total unredeemable *****clown hacks like Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff (talk about "Captain Arrogance") trying to ram a totally bogus impeachment on the President. If we're going to play Monday Morning QB on Trump for every last little thing he does or doesn't do to set off his media critics or Democrats (apologies for repeating myself) ... maybe, just maybe, everyone (including the oxygen thieves on Capitol Hill) would have had a little more free time and focus to be out there actually doing the people's business, and maybe getting an even better jump on this thing?

Anyway, that's my token post for the evening, Dan. Take your victory lap about all of your other stuff I'm not responding to (and keep fooling yourself that any of it deserves a response), as if you didn't ignore a ton of stuff I posted. Unlike you, I don't think my $h!t is ice cream. Have a good one.

Well Chuck, see, what I don't get, is how he gets such a 'pass' for the stuff he does, and says, now, and in the past. "Im good with it" that he can say what he wants, now, and in the past, and that's ok. Ok, that's how you see him, and you accept those things with a 'whatever'. I do not. I cannot. And, you know, I want to apologize for letting myself 'jump the shark' on this board and to those who must be reading our posts. Guess without our team (remember, that's what we signed up for here) in it (moot point obviously) we had to talk about something. But I'm sorry I let myself go down this endless rabbit hole, it's just a dead end. And I never meant to hurt anyone's feelings. I value all the friendships I have made here that have carried over to the rink. They have been invaluable..

I have so much work in front of me now so I'll say adios for abit. I can't handle the stress of what's going on in the real world, with a pandemic that could kill someone I love, and put energy here even tho as you can see, I have a passionate opinion. I'd much rather talk UNH hockey, but that's not happening here at the moment. Hopefully one day soon, it will. Be well.

[LTsatch]

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The next step up the Trump stupidity ladder is to call the virus the Communist Flu, or maybe even The Socialist Flu!

[Dan]

Wow. A post like that almost takes my victory lap for me, Chuck...

Strange that only yesterday I was told that the US is it’s own country and that we could handle and protect ourselves regardless of why happened in another country and regaled with requests not to point fingers and come together. Now this...

It’s not really the mea culpa you promised you’d have for all of us when you finally realized this was a serious event, but apology accepted. I’m just pleased you now recognize (excuse me, have been instructed to recognize) the potential danger of the virus. I mean that was some hysterical post, but you only got your new marching orders from DT this afternoon so I’ll give you a pass...

[Darius]

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I can't even...

[Darius]

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I have so much work in front of me now so I'll say adios for abit. I can't handle the stress of what's going on in the real world, with a pandemic that could kill someone I love, and put energy here even tho as you can see, I have a passionate opinion. I'd much rather talk UNH hockey, but that's not happening here at the moment. Hopefully one day soon, it will. Be well.

Hang in there, keep looking out for others and doing good. I've been close to having enough of this forum, but it does show where we are as a country and since it is the large volume posting season for me, what the heck. Now if we could only get some Chinese citizens on here posting about the US Army bringing coronavirus to their country.

[Darius]

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And current testing. I looked in the Walmart parking lot for signs of a drive up testing clinic. What's the timing on that? How's Google doing with the national web site they first heard about during a Rose Garden briefing? This is not a rant at you, HR, just a rant.

Mobile test site open, besieged in Manchester:

https://www.unionleader.com/news/hea...lock_id=883785

[LTsatch]

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Hang in there, keep looking out for others and doing good. I've been close to having enough of this forum, but it does show where we are as a country and since it is the large volume postining season for me, what the heck. Now if we could only get some Chinese citizens on here posting about the US Army bringing coronavirus to their country.

Actually, I heard Dennis Rodman was patient zero, and brought it over to China.

[Chuck Murray]

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Wow. A post like that almost takes my victory lap for me, Chuck...

Strange that only yesterday I was told that the US is it’s own country and that we could handle and protect ourselves regardless of why happened in another country and regaled with requests not to point fingers and come together. Now this...

It’s not really the mea culpa you promised you’d have for all of us when you finally realized this was a serious event, but apology accepted. I’m just pleased you now recognize (excuse me, have been instructed to recognize) the potential danger of the virus. I mean that was some hysterical post, but you only got your new marching orders from DT this afternoon so I’ll give you a pass...

I'm pretty sure my latest comments signaled more of a tone of resignation than anything else, Dan. But you read it the way you want, and I honestly don't mind if you perceive it as a half-step by me in the direction of toning down the heat, since the course being taken by the country now is pretty much set in stone. I still disagree with the drastic measures being undertaken, but I've been upfront on the concept that once a rock starts rolling down a hill, it's hard to stop it. And that "rock" continues to be panic.

I think it's a fair question to look ahead, and wonder if the "remedy" may end up being worse than the virus itself. How "safe" is it really for us, if the outcome leaves us in a worse position than otherwise would/might have happened with a less drastic course?

I'll post the following link, with the proviso that I'm with the author only so far, and I think he makes some appropriate disclaimers near the end. But there are some interesting points earlier in the article that I'll cut and paste after the link, so save some time:

https://townhall.com/columnists/denn...recip=27247798

As of this writing, 6,400 people (ed. note - now 7,499) all over the world have died from the coronavirus. In the United States, 68 people (ed. note - now 85) have died.

Some perspective:

Chinese deaths (3,217) account for half of the worldwide total. If you add Italy (1,441) and Iran (724), two countries where many Chinese were allowed in until recently, that totals another 2,165. In other words, outside of China, Italy and Iran -- with 5,382 deaths collectively -- 1,018 people have died. There are 7.8 billion people in the world.

Regarding Italy, the Jerusalem Post of March 16 reported that according to Nobel Prize-winning chemist Michael Levitt, "Italy's higher death rate was likely due to the fact that elderly people make up a greater percentage of the population than they do in other countries such as China or France." As former CBS correspondent Sharyl Attkisson further explained: "Italy has the oldest population in Europe and more elderly per capita than the U.S. Most of the Italian deaths are in patients in their 80s and 90s. In addition, Italy has a great number of direct China contacts. Italy was the first to join China's 'silk road' economic partnership project ... (Italy's) deaths are out of a population of 60 million people."

Regarding Iran, the Wall Street Journal reported on March 11:

"Iranian officials trace the origins of the country's coronavirus epidemic to the holy city of Qom, home to ... a number of Chinese-backed infrastructure projects built by scores of workers and technicians from China ... '(China has) turned into a very toxic bomb,' said Sanam Vakil, deputy Middle East director at Chatham House, a think tank in London."

Those are all very, very different situations to the one in the US, where flights to/from China were banned in late January 2020.

The number of US deaths is not multiplying - certainly not exponentially - and deaths are still at the rate of roughly 8 per day over the last week or so - almost all elderly persons with long-standing respiratory issues.

The next section talks about the other costs to humanity that no one else is talking about …

We can only be certain that shutting down virtually every part of society will result in a large number of people economically ruined, life savings depleted, decades of work building a restaurant or some other small business destroyed. As if that were not bad enough, the ancillary effects would include increased depression and divorce and other personal tragedies. The effects of closing schools for weeks or months will include family chaos, vast numbers of bored young people, health care providers who will have to stay home and more. Yet young people are the least likely people to become ill from the virus.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released this statement regarding closing schools:

"Available modeling data indicate ... that other mitigation efforts (e.g., handwashing, home isolation) have more impact on both spread of disease and health care measures. In other countries, those places who (sic) closed school (e.g., Hong Kong) have not had more success in reducing spread than those that did not (e.g., Singapore)."

No one has to agree with anything I've mentioned or highlighted. But these are all fair observations, and it seems not enough folks are considering the "other" impacts of our current course of action, especially if there is no effort to return to normalcy soon (and in "soon" I mean weeks, not months). If the present US metrics continue as they have been, we should try ASAP.

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It's sad to see folks bowing out from posting here, which is one of the few things I suppose we can enjoy doing for awhile with any sense of community feeling. I can assure you, without naming names, that several folks have left after commiserating with me via e-mail to express their frustration with being "shouted" down, so it is happening on both "sides". We ALL own that.

[After the Whistle]

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REf, I believe that you where the last one to reference hockey, does anyone know the status of Joe Sacco? In October he was listed as a Junior even though he was in his 4th year. Assumed that he perhaps was granted a red shirt year due to injury. Now if you look to different roster sources he is alternately listed as a junior or a senior? While it is not a huge issue it might effect next years roster decisions. I am betting he worked his way into some money but certainly don't know. Always liked his effort and he was always very responsible on the ice. Appeared to make up for his lack of top level skill with heads up responsible play. Just my take and paired with a couple of others could have helped make a respectable 4th liner if they were ever given enough ice time to gain confidence etc.
perhaps he is will be in the transfer portale for his 5th year as he did not appear at senior night.

[NCAA watcher]

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WAKEFIELD, Mass. - The Hockey East Association today announced the 2019-20 Pro Ambitions All-Rookie Team and six other season-long awards as voted by the league's 11 head coaches.
Pro Ambitions All-Rookie Team

G: Spencer Knight, Boston College *
D: Declan Carlile, Merrimack
D: Zac Jones, Massachusetts
F: Matt Boldy, Boston College
F: Vladislav Firstov, UConn
F: Alex Newhook, Boston College *
F: Trevor Zegras, Boston University
*unanimous selection