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Originally posted by BassAle View Postto be fair, warmer weather can reduce the amount of time the virus can survive on surfaces like doorknobs, etc and lower temperatures increase their survival time in aerosolCornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostBut those are seasonal variations, right? This is going to be with us for a long time. Presumably winter will come again, although I'm sure the American Petroleum Institute is right now developing "science" about how global warming will stop the scourge of nCoV.
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Originally posted by BassAle View Postwell SARS is still with us but we're not panicking about it anymore. If we see a resurgence of Coronavirus I doubt it will be as severe as the current (there will be potential vaccinations, hopefully they'll have identified some antiviral meds that are effective, etc)Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostDumb question: do viruses mutate?
some have very high mutation rates. An RNA virus (like polio) have super high mutation rates: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.3000003Last edited by BassAle; 02-10-2020, 12:49 PM.
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Originally posted by BassAle View Postabsolutely
some have very high mutation rates.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostSo assuming a moving target can we have confidence it won't mutate to a more dangerous configuration? (Or are the odds against that, in the way that random chance tends not to produce meaningful strings)?
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Originally posted by BassAle View Posti'm not going to try to answer this because I'd be pulling things out of my ***. I do know the flu has a really high mutation rate, which I would guess is why we don't have a universal vaccination by now. It doesn't seem to make it more deadly, but it makes it difficult to develop immunity. I would guess there is always a chance for a mutation that would make a virus more deadly.Cornell University
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Originally posted by BassAle View Postto be fair, warmer weather can reduce the amount of time the virus can survive on surfaces like doorknobs, etc and lower temperatures increase their survival time in aerosol
warmer weather can absolutely slow the spread
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Originally posted by French Rage View PostBut, correct me if I'm wrong, the vast majority of the decrease in outbreaks in warmer weather is because people are less holed-up insideCornell University
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Originally posted by French Rage View PostBut, correct me if I'm wrong, the vast majority of the decrease in outbreaks in warmer weather is because people are less holed-up inside, not because the sun is baking the virus away.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostWhy wouldn't this increase transmission?
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Originally posted by French Rage View PostI think everyone indoors is closer quarters, whereas outside or about the town is less so? Don't quote me on this though.
But after 5 minutes of deep internet searching I think you're right. Which suggests to me we should burn down the hospitals.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostRight I got that part but I wondered whether the lines would cross the other way: increased opportunity of many pairs transmission would overwhelm the lower likelihood of single pair transmission.
But after 5 minutes of deep internet searching I think you're right. Which suggests to me we should burn down the hospitals.
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