All 3 finalists were deserving, I am glad that Elizabeth won. Congrats to her and to Roque and Mueller.
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Harvard 6
Wisconsin 5
Clarkson 3
Minnesota 2
Boston College 2
Northeastern 2
Brown 1
Mercyhurst 1
U of New Hampshire 1
And if you want to pick nits and note that Jennifer Botterill won the award twice, that would mean Harvard really only had five award winners. You're welcome.
And if you want to pick nits and note that Jennifer Botterill won the award twice, that would mean Harvard really only had five award winners. You're welcome.
A belated "Thank you". I stand corrected and give you:
Harvard 5
Wisconsin 5
Clarkson 3
Minnesota 2
Boston College 2
Northeastern 2
Brown 1
Mercyhurst 1
U of New Hampshire 1
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Half correct. Of the 3 that remained, yes it was the right choice.
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Not that they're comparable, but do I have this correct? Of the teams with different Kaz winners and national championships it's Harvard 5 and 1, Wisconsin 5 and 5, Clarkson 3 and 3, Minnesota 2 and 7 and New Hampshire 1 and 1. Seems to me there's one team that maybe should have had a couple more winners over the years. And I know, I know it's a team sport and the two years the Gophers won any one of the five Gopher finalists was worthy of the award.
Last edited by bluffrinkrat; 03-29-2020, 02:30 PM.
Reason: It was probably the Russians doing.
"Everything that rises must converge." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Not that they're comparable, but do I have this correct? Of the teams with different Kaz winners and national championships it's Harvard 5 and 1, Wisconsin 5 and 5, Clarkson 3 and 3, Minnesota 2 and 7 and New Hampshire 1 and 1. Seems to me there's one team that maybe should have had a couple more winners over the years. And I know, I know it's a team sport and the two years the Gophers won any one of the five Gopher finalists was worthy of the award.
If you include the AWCHA Champs* from 1998-2000 then yes the totals for each are:
Team - Patty Kaz & NC$$ or AWCHA* Champs
Harvard 5 & 1*
Wisconsin 5 & 5
Clarkson 3 & 3
Minnesota 2 & 6+1*
Boston College 2 & 0
Northeastern 2 & 0
Brown 1 & 0
Mercyhurst 1 & 0
U of New Hampshire 1 & 1*
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Not that they're comparable, but do I have this correct? Of the teams with different Kaz winners and national championships it's Harvard 5 and 1, Wisconsin 5 and 5, Clarkson 3 and 3, Minnesota 2 and 7 and New Hampshire 1 and 1. Seems to me there's one team that maybe should have had a couple more winners over the years. And I know, I know it's a team sport and the two years the Gophers won any one of the five Gopher finalists was worthy of the award.
This is not a very good approach, as there is a big difference between individual success and team success. A lot of the Minnesota titles have come from huge depth; a third line that is really great is more likely to result in a national championship than it is a Patty Kazmeier. And, in the years of Gopher championships I was around for, I don't think that they had the single best player in the country. When it comes to Gopher players who I think got robbed of the Kaz, the most salient instance was 2013, when the wrong Gopher got the award. I thought that Megan Bozek was pretty clearly both the best and most important player on the team.
This is not a very good approach, as there is a big difference between individual success and team success. A lot of the Minnesota titles have come from huge depth; a third line that is really great is more likely to result in a national championship than it is a Patty Kazmeier. And, in the years of Gopher championships I was around for, I don't think that they had the single best player in the country. When it comes to Gopher players who I think got robbed of the Kaz, the most salient instance was 2013, when the wrong Gopher got the award. I thought that Megan Bozek was pretty clearly both the best and most important player on the team.
I agree and realized when I wrote it that it wasn't a good approach. Megan Bozek was amazing and she is my all-time favorite player in watching the Gophers since they opened the doors at Ridder. In 2013 I thought any one of the three deserved it and in 2005 it was a coin flip, but in thinking back as far as importance to the team goes Kelly Stephens was right there.
Last edited by bluffrinkrat; 03-29-2020, 07:58 PM.
Reason: Okay, maybe I was wrong about the Russians, too.
"Everything that rises must converge." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
In 2004, I thought that Krissy was the most dominant player in the country, but as a two-time Olympian, Ruggiero had a greater reputation.
As for a program that was undervalued by the Kazmaier voters, UMD didn't get much love. IMO, Martin was the best player in 2008 and Blais was in 2010, but the timing of the award worked against both.
"... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
I wasn't a Mercyhurst fan (not that there's anything wrong with that), but I always thought Meghan Agosta was robbed. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I don't know if there are any other four-time finalists who never won the award.
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