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Given Trump’s record of defiance, Barr’s maneuver is predictable—but it is a shocking break with more than 200 years of constitutional and legal precedent.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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I won't say it's never happened before. I'm almost certain that with enough digging you could find some pretty harshly worded decisions by appeals judges frustrated that their instructions to the trier of fact below were either ignored, misunderstood or misapplied.
But no, I certainly don't think it's normal.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI respect your opinion and your values, but let me ask you this. Is there any reasonably likely (say, > 5%) set of circumstances under which Bernie would be a more dangerous president than Dump? I completely get that his ideology and his (my) preferred policies revolt you. But those policies still lie within the boundaries of democratric government and rule of law. My appeal to you is that no matter how "wrong headed" you think him, Bernie will not end democracy or the world. And Dump actually could.
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Originally posted by Rover View PostGotta disagree here. You have to call things as you see them. From what I've read Nazi gatherings were enthusiastic as well and although I'm not sure how polite the individuals were at those things, the parallels here are uncanny.
Trump is a showman and a very good one. The question for voters is this - do you value that over putting kids in cages, extorting allies in their fights with enemies to aid your re-election, have the Justice Dept investigate rivals but go easy on your political henchmen, etc etc. If you do value that more, then yes you're in the cult. Now is the time to get serious and choose sides. If you're more interested in the spectacle instead of the KKK rhetoric and actions then you're part of the problem and most likely a future victim of an internet scam or two.a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostI personally don't think either Bernie or Trump are "dangerous."
https://time.com/5777578/trumps-acqu...-constitution/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/04...nsc-dangerous/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ther-big-test/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...tified/606133/
Meh right?
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostYou guys have all bought into this nazi/orc/deplorable/racist b.s. hook, line and sinker, such that you are going to end up with four more years of him if you're not careful.
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Originally posted by trixR4kids View PostAnybody who still supports the guy is ok with him referring to the nazis in Charlottesville as "fine people" or at best are willing to overlook or make excuses for it. So that characterization isn't exactly inaccurate, not to even get into their various inhumane policies.
Me personally, I don't want to be in any group that includes prominent numbers of white supremacists. No matter what might be in it for me.What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?
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I am a White Suburbanite Middle Class Straight Male...I literally couldn't benefit more from this administration. (even the Jew part doesnt hurt...for now) Basic logic though, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
Are there people who disagree with my opinion? Sure.
It doesn't mean I'm wrong. It doesn't mean I'm right. It's just my opinion.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostAre there people calling him "dangerous," including those looking to sell newspapers or magazines, or draw clicks to websites? Sure.
Lemme guess. You think climate scientists are on the take, right?
We are seeing 30's Germany in real time and this is how it happens. We know the same conversations were going on back then, too. People haven't changed in 900 years so they certainly haven't in 90.Last edited by Kepler; 02-13-2020, 01:30 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostAre there people calling him "dangerous," including those looking to sell newspapers or magazines, or draw clicks to websites? Sure.
Are there people who disagree with my opinion? Sure.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostLemme guess. You think climate scientists are on the take, right?
We are seeing 30's Germany in real time and this is how it happens. We know the same conversations were going on back then, too. People haven't changed in 900 years so they certainly haven't in 90.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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