POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

[burd]

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So, 70% of the population says we want to hear witnesses, and the Republicans ignore them.

So much for your 2 cents.

We aren't living in the days of Nixon anymore. As can be obviously seen by anyone not intent on playing " both sides".

I think Hovey gave a sensible, thoughtful response.

[leswp1]

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Tax cuts and deficit spending is the Republican Santa Claus.

I get that but how long do the kids believe in Santa and how long can they keep printing money. The stocks are up but the avg joe doesn't live off of those.

So, 70% of the population says we want to hear witnesses, and the Republicans ignore them.

So much for your 2 cents.

We aren't living in the days of Nixon anymore. As can be obviously seen by anyone not intent on playing " both sides".

75% want witnesses but the polls aren't for 75% saying impeach and remove. Who do you think elects these amoral buffoons? The same people who watch Faux news and believe what ever they are told, even if it was different 5 minutes ago. The base is willing to swallow any amount of offal to be able to keep their folks in power. They will overlook anything- look at the number of people with terrible histories in the South who are running and are supported because they have the correct color on their sign

I think what he said as far as that goes is accurate. I don't agree that t'Rump will lose in the Fall. The Dems are not willing to swallow a party line and will continue to argue instead of standing behind one person. That was always the problem and it hasn't changed.

[ScoobyDoo]

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I think what he said as far as that goes is accurate. I don't agree that t'Rump will lose in the Fall. The Dems are not willing to swallow a party line and will continue to argue instead of standing behind one person. That was always the problem and it hasn't changed.

That's the way both parties should be and used to be. Until the Republicans figured out that they could get whatever they wanted by banding together on common causes each election. And those common causes only need be lip service. They need not ever be enacted or come to fruition.

My evidence? The Tea Party. The Tea Party failed at it's only policy goal yet it was an enormous success in getting Republicans exactly what they always wanted. Plutocracy.

[Kepler]

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I’m confident the democrats will **** up the election

The only question is will the **** up enough to lose

Please stop with this. It helps nobody but the Nazis.

[dxmnkd316]

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I think Hovey gave a sensible, thoughtful response.

Ditto. It was a good post and I have a hard time finding fault in it.

[dxmnkd316]

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I get that but how long do the kids believe in Santa and how long can they keep printing money. The stocks are up but the avg joe doesn't live off of those.

It’s really not that hard of a trick. The GOP has convinced the common man to use ‘fair’ as defined by the 1%. If we all understood what fair actually meant, the guillotines would come out tomorrow.

[ScoobyDoo]

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What's everyone think of Lamar Alexander's take. He says Article I Impeachment, Trump is guilty as **** but it's not impeachable and he should not be removed for it.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., characterized the president's actions in Ukraine as inappropriate but said the Constitution doesn't grant the Senate a right to remove the president from office for inappropriate actions. The panel discusses. Aired on 1/31/20.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1VHJpXZIvU

[Kepler]

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It’s really not that hard of a trick. The GOP has convinced the common man to use ‘fair’ as defined by the 1%. If we all understood what fair actually meant, the guillotines would come out tomorrow.

Exactly. Why do you think the DJIA is quoted every night and not the median income or the employment with benefits rate (the converse of which is the real unemployment rate)?

The corporate media identifies the economic health of the nation with what is good for, well, me -- people whose assets are investments and the housing market and who are unburdened by debt. This is a boom time for me! Many of the rest of you, well, probably not so much.

But how many Americans are $1k from bankruptcy at all times? 33%? 50%?

If we measured their economic health every night on network news we would have very different policies. The fact that we do not is not a coincidence. This is all part of manufacturing the consent of the cattle to be slaughtered.

[Kepler]

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What's everyone think of Lamar Alexander's take. He says Article I Impeachment, Trump is guilty as **** but it's not impeachable and he should not be removed for it.

Has anybody told him impeachability has no standard at all? He's a coward hiding behind "my hands are tied" but he's making the choice. Hopefully voters will hold him accountable (except I think he's retiring).

[mookie1995]

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What's everyone think of Lamar Alexander's take. He says Article I Impeachment, Trump is guilty as **** but it's not impeachable and he should not be removed for it.

twisted the screw as deep as he could possible trun. said he didn't need to see more evidence because what he's seen is enough. but it is not going anywhere given the senate.

[Jimjamesak]

I get that but how long do the kids believe in Santa and how long can they keep printing money. The stocks are up but the avg joe doesn't live off of those.

Until Republicans can’t convince them of “at the end of the day my paycheck will be better under the Republicans. Dems will just raise taxes and my take home will go down.”

(I work with these people and for a good 2/3rds that’s all they care about)

[Rover]

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It’s really not that hard of a trick. The GOP has convinced the common man to use ‘fair’ as defined by the 1%. If we all understood what fair actually meant, the guillotines would come out tomorrow.

Then let them take it in the shorts. Once you stop trying to save people from themselves and making idiotic decisions, you'll be a lot happier. Trust me on this one.

[Jimjamesak]

Then let them take it in the shorts. Once you stop trying to save people from themselves and making idiotic decisions, you'll be a lot happier. Trust me on this one.

Because there’s plenty of us out here fighting and all you want to do is leave us to die.

[jerphisch]

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Hovey's response was inadequate and completely failed to address the point. The point was none of the boards conservatives have the moral courage to say that the what the senate Rs are doing is wrong. Hovey simply confirmed that by giving them all a pass.

[dxmnkd316]

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Exactly. Why do you think the DJIA is quoted every night and not the median income or the employment with benefits rate (the converse of which is the real unemployment rate)?

The corporate media identifies the economic health of the nation with what is good for, well, me -- people whose assets are investments and the housing market and who are unburdened by debt. This is a boom time for me! Many of the rest of you, well, probably not so much.

But how many Americans are $1k from bankruptcy at all times? 33%? 50%?

If we measured their economic health every night on network news we would have very different policies. The fact that we do not is not a coincidence. This is all part of manufacturing the consent of the cattle to be slaughtered.

This is absolutely right. If media outlets like MSNBC wanted to move the needle, they would have a ticker on the bottom of the screen with adjusted income growth of the 1% and 50%. They wouldn’t announce housing starts, they’d announce medical bankruptcies. They wouldn’t announce DJIA, they’d announce total cumulative student debt.