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  • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    If Watergate had happened today Nixon never would have resigned and Gerald Ford may have been elected President instead of Jimmy Carter.
    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    What Dershowitz is arguing for Trump means that Alan Dershowitz believes that Nixon was wrongfully accused. That is staggering to me.


    There has been revisionist history going on in the trumpican party that Nixon actually should not have resigned and really didn't do anything wrong. We don't live in the same world we lived in in the 1970s. For many reasons a sizeable minority of Americans today simply and absolutely refuse to accept truth, evidence, science and reality. We will see in November just how sizeable it is.

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    • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

      Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
      There has been revisionist history going on in the trumpican party that Nixon actually should not have resigned and really didn't do anything wrong. We don't live in the same world we lived in in the 1970s. For many reasons a sizeable minority of Americans today simply and absolutely refuse to accept truth, evidence, science and reality. We will see in November just how sizeable it is.
      Draw the line. The famous Nixon quote is, "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."

      If that's true this is no longer America.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        If Watergate had happened today Nixon never would have resigned and Gerald Ford may have been elected President instead of Jimmy Carter.
        Nixon was railroaded!

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        • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
          Nixon was railroaded!
          Considering what he did pales in comparison to what Trump did I don't think you can conclude otherwise.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

            Well, compared to the dumpster, Nixon does seem a bit like a schoolmarm.

            edit: scooby beat me to it.

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            • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

              It is still staggering for me to remember that when Nixon left office only 24% of Americans thought he was doing a good job and 57% wanted him removed. It saddens me to realize that even though we saw that time as a time of so much strife and political disagreement (and it was) there was still bi-partisan support for both impeaching Nixon and a bi-partisan disapproval of his job performance. We are so far away from that now. It is almost as if it were a myth. And this was a president who it can at least be argued had a number of major qualifications for the job and had actually accomplished some worthy things in his time in office.

              As Kep has posted many times, this is the end result of a generation of conservatives (I almost hate applying that term to them) who have conducted a very purpose driven hijacking of much of our electronic media. The growth of first right-wing radio, and then FOX News, and finally the absolute swamp of lies and conspiracy mongering much of the internet has become is not an accident. It was a targeted strike against people the right and the .0001% knew could be manipulated and brainwashed into believing almost anything, as long as you serve it up just right. Sure we have 500 channels on TV now, and a hundred other ways to fixate on one electronic screen or another. But that's not because people want us to have choices.

              People like Lee Atwater weren't just playing the moments to win a particular election, they were laying the groundwork for what has become. More than third of the electorate believes outlandish lies and sees every mis-characterization of the "other side" as the gospel. Again, not an accident or the inevitable outcome of the way modern politics have evolved. There were methods to this madness to lead us to where we are today.

              The left, progressives and media types who value truth and accuracy needed to begin mounting a counter-attack a generation ago. Instead we had Dukakis in a tank, people caring far too much about a stain on a dress and whether or not a First Lady baked cookies and John Kerry staying mostly silent while people who use the military shamelessly when it suits them were attacking him and making fun of his time when people were firing live ammunition at him.

              trump is leaps and bounds more corrupt and criminal on his best days than Nixon was on his worst. Had Nixon committed the same types of infractions and ran his White House in the manner trump has his, he also would have been impeached in his first term and removed from office. He probably would not have received a pardon following and likely would have faced charges in a federal criminal courthouse.

              The elections of 2020 are either going to be where we at least draw the line and say no more, or hopefully they might even be where we say and actually do something better. Or they could be the culmination of what the right has been doing since the 1970s. There are more of us than there are of them. We have to find a way to reach them and motivate them, and the first task is to get them to the polls.
              Last edited by WeAreNDHockey; 01-19-2020, 11:22 AM.

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              • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                This was Ailes' explicit purpose in creating Fox News.
                This. This. This.

                It's not here by accident, folks.

                Cornell '04, Stanford '06


                KDR

                Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
                gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
                Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                Test to see if I can add this.

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                • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                  There has been revisionist history going on in the trumpican party that Nixon actually should not have resigned and really didn't do anything wrong. We don't live in the same world we lived in in the 1970s. For many reasons a sizeable minority of Americans today simply and absolutely refuse to accept truth, evidence, science and reality. We will see in November just how sizeable it is.
                  The party that lectures us about the moral decline in America. Due to abortions, welfare, and whatnot.
                  What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                  • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                    This. This. This.

                    It's not here by accident, folks.
                    Liberals have never found an answer to the Ailes-Murdoch media campaign.

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                    • It ain't any of that.

                      Its that sweet sweet Russian cash. Everyone wants in on the gravy train.

                      Amazing how little it takes to get someone to sell out their country.
                      What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                      • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                        Originally posted by burd View Post
                        Liberals have never found an answer to the Ailes-Murdoch media campaign.
                        It wasn't for lack of trying. Remember Air America? And what do you think the MSNBC prime time lineup is there for?

                        It's almost like conservatives are more emotionally-driven than liberals and don't care about facts as much. They just wanna be mad like Howard in Network.

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                        • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                          It's almost like conservatives are more emotionally-driven than liberals and don't care about facts as much. They just wanna be mad like Howard in Network.
                          There is some science to support that (amygdala studies).

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                          • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                            Alan Dershowitz was interviewed on ABC This Week this morning. I bet if Nixon were alive he'd be wondering where all this love was when he was in trouble.
                            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                            • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                              Trump continues to prove that women are irrational, petty, self-destructive, and should never be President.
                              “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

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                              • Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                Yet he still gave him 400 million dollars and pretty much assured he'd be a sheltered rich **** his entire existence.
                                No, he did it because then people would be impressed he was rich enough to do it.

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