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    Quote Originally Posted by scoreboard View Post
    Penn State and Arizona State began playing D1 hockey in 2013 and 2015. Both have already played in the NCAA tournament.
    Both started programs from club hockey. Completely different. When you move up divisions or conferences, they phase in scholarships. When you start a program from club hockey you get full scholarships. What else you got? Keep digging bro. Maybe Cav is actually a good coach? He has his name on 4 NCAA Championships and BC hasnít won one since he left.

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    8th place! So impressive. Maybe Diaco can make a trophy for Cavanaugh for this stunning accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowing View Post
    Donít mean to disrupt your narrative, but....the first 3 were without a full slate of scholarships! I think heís only been 3 years in HE with 18 full scholarships.
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    Both started programs from club hockey. Completely different. When you move up divisions or conferences, they phase in scholarships. When you start a program from club hockey you get full scholarships. What else you got? Keep digging bro. Maybe Cav is actually a good coach? He has his name on 4 NCAA Championships and BC hasnít won one since he left.
    I'm not sure where you got your misinformation, but when a school starts a varsity sports program the school decides how many scholarships to offer (up to the scholarship limit) from day one. In the case of UConn their NCAA financial statements show that Coach Cavanaugh used 5 his first season (last season in the AHA), 12 his second season (first season in HEA) and 18 starting with his third season. So this is the fifth season Coach Cavanaugh has had use of all 18 full scholarships allowed by the NCAA. As for Penn State, they did start their program with 18 full scholarships available, but Arizona State only used 14 scholarships their first season before going to the NCAA limit of 18 their second season. What else you got?

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    UConn beats NU at NU! Their coach had nothing to do with it though.
    So what? NU was 13-6-2 before UConn defeated them today. Last season UConn defeated UMass in both teams' last regular season game: UMass was 26-7-0 at the time and went on to the National championship game while UConn finished 12-20-2 and played golf. Until Coach Cavanugh can win regularly against teams with winning records and have a winning record himself there is no reason to think he is a good head coach. This season UConn's opponents had a combined 110-118-41 record at the time UConn played them and currently have a combined 228-228-63 record. The 9 teams UConn defeated had a combined 44-54-20 record at the time UConn played them and currently have a combined 69-104-27 record. UConn has defeated only 3 teams with winning records at the time as well as currently: UML, Maine and NU.

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    Thanks for the link, but I'm not able to read the full article. I do have UConn's NCAA financial reports from 2010 through 2018 (the 2019 report should be available in the next 4 to 6 weeks). Here are the athletic budget deficts for those years:
    2010 - -$14,451,400
    2011 - -$14,934,366
    2012 - -$17,541,624
    2013 - -$18,945,612
    2014 - -$27,079,853
    2015 - -$27,977,315
    2016 - -$35,253,250
    2017 - -$41,975,209
    2018 - -$40,638,237

    Instead of just adding up student fees, direct and indirect (UConn reported none) institutional support like it appears was done in the article my numbers are based on total expenses minus total earned income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowing View Post
    Both started programs from club hockey. Completely different. When you move up divisions or conferences, they phase in scholarships. When you start a program from club hockey you get full scholarships. What else you got? Keep digging bro. Maybe Cav is actually a good coach? He has his name on 4 NCAA Championships and BC hasnít won one since he left.
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    Last place in the CT Ice tournament. Worst team in CT and 38th in PWR. Cavanaugh really is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmine Scarpaglia View Post
    Last place in the CT Ice tournament. Worst team in CT and 38th in PWR. Cavanaugh really is the best.
    Jeez, heís in your head huh? Just say thanks for the BC NCAA Championships and move on. By the way when was the last time BC won it all? What happened to the dynasty?

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    UConn played great last weekend. Didnít get the desired results, but carried play both games. No puck luck and couldnít finish. I wouldnít want to play them down the stretch. In the league they are coming off HE victories over Maine and NU.

    This weekend is huge for both teams. UConn needs to solve UNHís great goaltending and get a few dirty greasy goals. Should be a great weekend of hockey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowing View Post
    Jeez, heís in your head huh? Just say thanks for the BC NCAA Championships and move on. By the way when was the last time BC won it all? What happened to the dynasty?
    Um, dynasties don't last forever. Cav was a big part of it. But given what he's done (or hasn't done) at UConn thus far it would be foolish to suggest BCs dynasty ended because Cav left.

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    A big 2 points on the road. IMO UConn actually played better last weekend, but lost two 3-2 games. They play inconsistent tonight and win 7-4. Thatís college hockey I guess. Regardless they have won their last 3 HE games for 6 points when league points are at a premium. Keep it going boys!

    Hope Carter Turnbell isnít hurt too bad, heís been playing really well. Next man up, but thatís a big loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Um, dynasties don't last forever. Cav was a big part of it. But given what he's done (or hasn't done) at UConn thus far it would be foolish to suggest BCs dynasty ended because Cav left.
    Ball donít lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowing View Post
    Ball donít lie
    You're right, it doesn't. What he hasn't been able to do at UConn has shown maybe he can't do it on his own. Where as Jerry York had plenty of success at Clarkson/BG without Cav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    You're right, it doesn't. What he hasn't been able to do at UConn has shown maybe he can't do it on his own. Where as Jerry York had plenty of success at Clarkson/BG without Cav.
    UConn didnít have a full slate of scholarships until two years ago. But good to hear you have lofty expectations of our coach.

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    I have seen PSU and ASU have immediate success upon entering D1 play. I like Cav a lot but has he even had one winning season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowing View Post
    UConn didn’t have a full slate of scholarships until two years ago. But good to hear you have lofty expectations of our coach.
    UConn’s had full use of 18 scholarships starting with the 2015-16 season, but don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    I have seen PSU and ASU have immediate success upon entering D1 play. I like Cav a lot but has he even had one winning season?
    Yes, his first, UConn's last season in Atlantic Hockey. In Hockey East this is is best season (so far).

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    I have seen PSU and ASU have immediate success upon entering D1 play. I like Cav a lot but has he even had one winning season?
    PSU and ASU seems both in great condition this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Um, dynasties don't last forever. Cav was a big part of it. But given what he's done (or hasn't done) at UConn thus far it would be foolish to suggest BCs dynasty ended because Cav left.
    Right. If we're being honest with ourselves if we just base an assessment of him on his UConn (lack of) accomplishments. Cav could be a GREAT head coach, we don't know. What we do know is that UConn is a hopeless hockey school (just like football). Cav never should have taken that job. Career killer. Herb Brooks wouldn't win there (when he was alive).

    I personally appreciate that we have this thread and 900+ posts to go before it gets locked especially since we can all expect Coach Cavan…. I mean... "Elbowing" … to bump this thread when UConn wins a game and gets a big bump up to 38th in the PWR. Given his win percentage this season, and that we're at Feb 3rd already, however, it appears we may only be a few more thread bumps before yet another sad season is over in Stores, CT.
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    The fact that you BC fans revel in the superiority of your team in an admittedly weak league leads me to believe you will be more sorely disappointed when the end comes than we will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    UConnís had full use of 18 scholarships starting with the 2015-16 season, but donít let facts get in the way of your narrative.

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    2014-2015 10 scholarships, 2015-2016 15 scholarships, 2016-2017 18 scholarships. So, 3 full season's ago, my bad. Again, it's great to see these lofty expectation of UConn's program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowing View Post
    2014-2015 10 scholarships, 2015-2016 15 scholarships, 2016-2017 18 scholarships.
    You don't state where you're getting your information, but here are the numbers from UConn's NCAA financial reports:
    2013-14 - 5.04 athletic aid, 9 students receiving aid, cost of aid $183,855
    2014-15 - 11.77 athletic aid, 16 students receiving aid, cost of aid $553,335
    2015-16 - 17.77 athletic aid, 22 students receiving aid, cost of aid $900,979
    2016-17 - 17.87 athletic aid, 25 students receiving aid, cost of aid $1,029,804
    2017-18 - 18.43 athletic aid, 25 students receiving aid, cost of aid $1,076,289

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    Max Letunov with his first NHL goal last night! Tage Thompson and now Max, itís nice to see UConn starting to produce NHL players.

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