NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

[mookie1995]

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Stillers lost to Tim Tebow

n’uff said

[burd]

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Vikes must have no other options for X Rhodes' position.

[Kepler]

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Let's go Vikings.

[ScoobyDoo]

Let's go Vikings.

No chance.

[alfablue]

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I believe the criteria being discussed was losing in the playoffs in spectacular fashion. I know the Lions have had a few gut-wrenching losses (1993 and 2014 jump out to me), but they really pale in comparison with the kings of this group: Minnesota and Buffalo.

I do get that, but to somehow feel pity for yourself for losing the SB is pretty lame and weak for some fans. Sucks to lose, but at least you got the opportunity to lose. So many of us totally fail to feel sorry for anyone who has had a devastating loss in the SB. Or multiple ones. There are 4 teams who would love to be in your position. Wallow in your self pity all you want- it's your violin you have to listen to.

(not you, specifically, FS23- just those who have any kind of sadness for losing futility in the SB)

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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I do get that, but to somehow feel pity for yourself for losing the SB is pretty lame and weak for some fans. Sucks to lose, but at least you got the opportunity to lose. So many of us totally fail to feel sorry for anyone who has had a devastating loss in the SB. Or multiple ones. There are 4 teams who would love to be in your position. Wallow in your self pity all you want- it's your violin you have to listen to.

(not you, specifically, FS23- just those who have any kind of sadness for losing futility in the SB)

I understand where you are coming from. However, there is something to be said for getting so close, and then seeing it slip through your fingers.

Again, if we are talking outright futility, the Vikings aren't even close to the top of that group (and the Lions likely do hold that title in the Super Bowl era). But, if the criteria is losing in spectacular fashion, they are one of the top couple of franchises...if not the top franchise. I think it really just depends on what criteria you are applying.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Minnesota Vikings are 0-2 all-time in OT in the Playoffs.

New Orleans Saints are 1-1 all-time in OT in the Playoffs.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Make that 1-2 apiece.

Skol Vikings!!

[state of hockey]

No chance.

Good take.

[ScoobyDoo]

Good take.

It worked.

[alfablue]

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I understand where you are coming from. However, there is something to be said for getting so close, and then seeing it slip through your fingers.

Again, if we are talking outright futility, the Vikings aren't even close to the top of that group (and the Lions likely do hold that title in the Super Bowl era). But, if the criteria is losing in spectacular fashion, they are one of the top couple of franchises...if not the top franchise. I think it really just depends on what criteria you are applying.

At least they were there and had the opportunity to win or lose. It's not the same as being so futile that you have never been there and it does not look to change in the next decade.

[St. Clown]

Bills
Patriots
Vikings - the better to torture a team's fans who are foolish enough not to expect the worst the following week.
Seahawks

Well, I’m 1-2 so far this week. Not bad for an MLB hitter.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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At least they were there and had the opportunity to win or lose. It's not the same as being so futile that you have never been there and it does not look to change in the next decade.

I completely agree that it is different. Hence why there are two different ways to look at it. One way, you have the Lions and the Browns. The other way, you have the Vikings and the Bills.

[Slap Shot]

At least they were there and had the opportunity to win or lose. It's not the same as being so futile that you have never been there and it does not look to change in the next decade.

It's not the same - that's the freaking point. As noted there's different ways to look at failure.

[The Rube]

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It's not the same - that's the freaking point. As noted there's different ways to look at failure.

Agreed it is not the same. Lions and Browns (and frankly, since about 1990, the Bengals) never really had a chance to genuinely HOPE. That's the point. If my team is futile, and I know it, I just take it. But if my team offers me hope...that's a different story.