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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    I'd ask somebody to please tell me the difference between Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey, but I don't really care. All three are mostly populated with a**holes.
    New Jersey is for people who can't make it in New York. Massachusetts is for people who can't make it in New Jersey.

    Seriously, I've lived in two of them and spent time in the third and I can't tell you the difference, except each of them is actually two states: an aggressively vile urban one and an obnoxiously stupid rural one. But, yeah, you're going to find mostly as-sholes, no argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    New Jersey is for people who can't make it in New York. Massachusetts is for people who can't make it in New Jersey.

    Seriously, I've lived in two of them and spent time in the third and I can't tell you the difference, except each of them is actually two states: an aggressively vile urban one and an obnoxiously stupid rural one. But, yeah, you're going to find mostly as-sholes, no argument.
    I lived upstate NY for a while (glances at RPI Masters on wall to left). That assessment is fairly accurate.

    There were rural folk in Saratoga and Schenectady and Fulton and Warren Counties that were backwards beyond my rural ND upbringing. But then there was NYC.

    Thing is the same "two states in one" argument could be made out here lately. Most of Wisconsin is not Madison; most of Minnesota (outstate) is not MSP metro; and, believe it or not, even ND is getting a bit that way with Fargo trying to be MSP-lite versus not Cass County ND*.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Thing is the same "two states in one" argument could be made out here lately.
    It's probably true of everywhere. Perhaps the exception is the states where the "city" is a joke (VT, WV, WY, ME, DE, MT, ND, NH). In those places the pseudo-city could be, dare I say, pleasant and fairly intelligent, especially if it is dominated by a university.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Thing is the same "two states in one" argument could be made out here lately. Most of Wisconsin is not Madison; most of Minnesota (outstate) is not MSP metro; and, believe it or not, even ND is getting a bit that way with Fargo trying to be MSP-lite versus not Cass County ND*.
    Geographically sure, but roughly 60% of the state lives in the Twin Cities metro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    Geographically sure, but roughly 60% of the state lives in the Twin Cities metro.
    According to this only 7% of MN pop lives in Minneapolis. The extended SMSA can be very deceptive.

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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Im sure that doesnt count the surrounding areas. Which no one considers out state/non metro.

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    Wait, wait, wait. Are you folks trying to say there is not something disturbingly different about people from Minnesota--those long forearms and large, protruding brows?? Just because they're nice on matters unrelated to hockey doesn't mean they can't handle the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    Geographically sure, but roughly 60% of the state lives in the Twin Cities metro.
    The "two states in one" argument is more about political POV.

    Those in the urban areas do not see the world the same way as the folks in the rural areas and vice versa. Their particular wants and needs from society (be it government or neighbors) are very different.

    Case in point: Refugee resettlement (Trump's EO where counties have to approve) is readily approved by metro MSP counties; meanwhile Beltrami Co (MN) passed a "nope" position. Same state, 250 miles apart, light years away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF_Gophers View Post
    Im sure that doesnt count the surrounding areas. Which no one considers out state/non metro.
    OK, a better metric would be the percentage of people who live in a high density local district.

    By that measure, MN is the 26th-most urban state. Exactly average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    OK, a better metric would be the percentage of people who live in a high density local district.

    By that measure, MN is the 26th-most urban state. Exactly average.
    I wasn't making any proclamations about the makeup there vs. other states - only that 60% of population is within a chip and a chair of Mpls/St. Paul rather than outstate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I wasn't making any proclamations about the makeup there vs. other states - only that 60% of population is within a chip and a chair of Mpls/St. Paul rather than outstate.
    I understand that, and by the more accurate measure 73% of Minnesotans live in an urban area. We are in violent agreement.
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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    So what do the locals think of the Vikes' chances Saturday? Better or worse than you felt about NO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    So what do the locals think of the Vikes' chances Saturday? Better or worse than you felt about NO?
    Same. Depends upon which Vikings team shows up. They can play with SF but will they get outcoached? If the Vikings can gameplan against their fierce DL they have a chance.

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    SF could come out and lay an egg. Then the Vikes will not capitalize and squeek out a close loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF_Gophers View Post
    SF could come out and lay an egg. Then the Vikes will not capitalize and squeek out a close loss.
    Seems to me if the Niners get Cousins out of his comfort zone early, it could get ugly.

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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    Seems to me if the Niners get Cousins out of his comfort zone early, it could get ugly.
    So basically have someone on the defense yell out "this is an important and meaningful game!" and he'll fall apart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    So basically have someone on the defense yell out "this is an important and meaningful game!" and he'll fall apart?
    That's such a Cupertino nerd way of looking at it.

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    So what do the locals think of the Vikes' chances Saturday? Better or worse than you felt about NO?
    I'd say the status of MIN14 and MIN19 will be a significant factor.
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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Vikings and Seahawks each have a shot.

    Titans and Texans not so much.

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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    I'd say the status of MIN14 and MIN19 will be a significant factor.
    Yeah, Thielen and Cousins really seem to communicate well on the field, which will be a big deal, with the pressure SF's d-line and linebackers can bring.

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