NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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I have to admit, I quick-googled the SB appearances, so my bad. Haley has six, according to the link I found.
And sh*, is IS 2020. Dammit. Fine. MN 1961 until 1990. Doesn't change my stance.

Well, if we're now using 30 year increments, then to be fair, we need to wait until the end of next season. The Vikings take 1961-1990 in a landslide. 1991-2020 is to be determined, but the Bills have the narrow advantage.

Who did Haley get his 6 appearances with? I know he got 2 with the 49ers and 3 with the Cowboys. I didn't think he got another one...but I could be wrong.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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What a punt...

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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Should have taken a knee instead of the end zone...

[MissThundercat]

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Well, I'm 0/2 on the weekend.

But I'm okay with that.

[The Rube]

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Well, if we're now using 30 year increments, then to be fair, we need to wait until the end of next season. The Vikings take 1961-1990 in a landslide. 1991-2020 is to be determined, but the Bills have the narrow advantage.

Who did Haley get his 6 appearances with? I know he got 2 with the 49ers and 3 with the Cowboys. I didn't think he got another one...but I could be wrong.

Ok, I misread the link. Haley has won 5 SBs, but has not appeared in 6. All with Cowboys/49ers. Side note: that's the ultimate sports whore. Wow.

[mookie1995]

Should have taken a knee instead of the end zone...

Goat last pass in foxboro was a td

[Kepler]

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Despite the horrifying loss tonight, I still believe in my Pats (5-5 since My Conversion). I will be actively rooting for them in every game they play. Forever.

[The Rube]

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Despite the horrifying loss tonight, I still believe in my Pats (5-5 since My Conversion). I will be actively rooting for them in every game they play. Forever.

I shall never leave my Bills. Believe me, the pain is much more.....1986 and counting......

[Slap Shot]

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Might I remind you, that last game you lost, the big one, was completely on you (12th man).

1990 until now, you have zero argument. Zero. 1970-1990, you had the crown.

That wasn't their last playoff debacle and since the 90's the Bills have been mostly irrelevant and haven't mattered. Since then the Vikings lost other home playoff games under Denny they had no business losing if they had a competent playoff coach on top of all the other royal screw ups.

We can agree to disagree.

[walrus]

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Although the title of the thread was a jab at whining Pats fans it was the truth. Pats had a good record but they weren't good.

[ScoobyDoo]

That wasn't their last playoff debacle and since the 90's the Bills have been mostly irrelevant and haven't mattered. Since then the Vikings lost other home playoff games under Denny they had no business losing if they had a competent playoff coach on top of all the other royal screw ups.

We can agree to disagree.

You are correct.

[Scarlet]

I shall never leave my Bills. Believe me, the pain is much more.....1986 and counting......

Is this a Whoooooosh situation?

Question for Belichick should be who he has lined up for OC since McDaniels was out the door and focusing on the three job offers he has rather than muster up one play that could get them in the end zone on first and goal. 😃

[The Rube]

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Is this a Whoooooosh situation?

Question for Belichick should be who he has lined up for OC since McDaniels was out the door and focusing on the three job offers he has rather than muster up one play that could get them in the end zone on first and goal. 😃

No whoosh.

[alfablue]

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It's cute that you some of you fans are arguing about who has had the worst playoff record and most pain....

In the Super Bowl era, the Lions are 1-12. I've lost count of Super Bowls, but Detroit has only participated 12 time that whole time.

Heck, including ALL seasons, the Lions are all of 7-13- dating back the first appearance in 1935.

So feel sorry for yourself all you want, but Lions fans are laughing at you for your "pain" as you have no clue what futility really means.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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It's cute that you some of you fans are arguing about who has had the worst playoff record and most pain....

In the Super Bowl era, the Lions are 1-12. I've lost count of Super Bowls, but Detroit has only participated 12 time that whole time.

Heck, including ALL seasons, the Lions are all of 7-13- dating back the first appearance in 1935.

So feel sorry for yourself all you want, but Lions fans are laughing at you for your "pain" as you have no clue what futility really means.

I believe the criteria being discussed was losing in the playoffs in spectacular fashion. I know the Lions have had a few gut-wrenching losses (1993 and 2014 jump out to me), but they really pale in comparison with the kings of this group: Minnesota and Buffalo.

If we are moving the criteria to outright futility, then the Lions quickly move up the ladder. Using that criteria, in the Super Bowl era, you really have the Lions (16 winning seasons, 12 Playoff appearances, 0 Super Bowl trips, 1 Playoff win, 3 Division Championships) and the Browns (18 winnings seasons, 14 Playoff appearances, 0 Super Bowl trips, 6 Playoff wins, 9 Division Championships). The Cardinals (15 winnings seasons, 8 Playoff appearances, 1 Super Bowl trip, 6 Playoff wins, 5 Division Championships) could also make a case...but I'll take Detroit as kings of outright futility in the Super Bowl era.