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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Interesting. What were the two books?

    I'm marginally less concerned about the military budget these days now that I understand almost the whole military is just a welfare program. It's a gigantic make work boondoggle, with some vocational training thrown in. It's the path out of poverty for a lot of people.

    Bernie understands the systemic despotism of capitalism in a way Warren does not, that is true. But the majority of Americans are closer to Warren's domestic nuts and bolts understanding. Effective reform movements in America come from bourgeois liberals, not from the working class. The white working class in America, since the 60s, is fascist. They were captured by their Plute slavemasters and have a form of PTSD Stockholm Syndrome. Marcuse and Adorno would turn in their graves, but they are not going to help. They love their chains. John Steinbeck is not walking through that door.

    So even though Bernie has the better answer, Warren has the approach that can work here and now.

    There's a unicorn out there that could change that: Black Bernie. Better still, Mexican Marx. That would be formidable.
    I’ll pray for that unicorn to appear!

    The first book was The Motorcycle Diaries. I grew up in a family where Che Guavera was public enemy #1, slightly ahead of Castro brothers. I had the book on my shelf for 15 years before I decided to bring it with me when my band played in d.c. I blew through it in 3-4 days and while I enjoyed it much to my surprise at the time it put questions in my head that I kept on tumble dry for at least a year. So I looked up the political status/climate of the countries he rode through and found he rode through Guatemala assisting poor people and lepers at the exact time the CIA had launched a coup to oust Jacobo Arbenz. Then it all crystallized for me.

    The second book was JFK And The Unspeakable. I had read nothing on this subject for 18 years until a friend recommended this one. It’s a real Cold War source book but it’s the meticulous source notes within that provide the denouement. Daniel Ellsberg raved about it, Marcus Raskin, JFK’s nuclear advisor labels it a sourcebook to rebuild a constitutional democracy...James Bradley, Yoko Ono, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin and the guy who wrote the economic hitman book all raved about it. So I said fine, i’ll Try it. It’s shocking. No other word to describe what James Douglass produced. It’s about so much more than why 35 died. It includes a history of Thomas Merton who was a towering figure in the peace movement.

    Anyway, those books turned me from a gop automaton to a read every book I can get left of Bernie voter. Call me a socialist I guess, i’m Not sure what other label would apply.

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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

    Imagine dying for Joe Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Imagine dying for Joe Biden
    Someone should investigate. Are the Ukrainians busy?

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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

    Oh my god

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    Bernout Twitter is the worst Twitter. Sophomoric, misogynist, predictable.
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    What exactly is misogynistic about that clip? I'll wait... Meanwhile your hoarse god probably tweeted out multiple racist things in the time it takes you to reply.
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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market


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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Imagine dying for Joe Biden
    This right here confirms I will not vote for Biden in the primary. November is a different story but this right now? His team can take a long walk of an icy pier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    This right here confirms I will not vote for Biden in the primary. November is a different story but this right now? His team can take a long walk of an icy pier.
    Meh, it's one a-hole precinct captain. I don't care for Joe but this shouldn't affect anybody's opinion of him. It's some underling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    What exactly is misogynistic about that clip? I'll wait... Meanwhile your hoarse god probably tweeted out multiple racist things in the time it takes you to reply.
    Check the replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Check the replies.
    I did...

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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    Sanders and Yang... **** these guys.

    They’re as egotistical as bloomberg and steyer. They could stop this **** tomorrow. They should. But alas, I guess every tent has to have a children’s table.

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    Yang gets a lot of crossover from wannabe Tech Bros who will unquestionably vote for Mango Mussolini over any other Dem, so his number is not surprising.

    I feel like the Berners who said "It depends" are really saying, "Not Biden".
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    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    But I was told by two people on here that Bernie Bros. aren't a real thing.

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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

    Sheesh, that thread has become a botski gang bang.
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    Not surprising, every Bernie Bro I know loves Joe Rogan because “he’s not afraid to listen to both sides!”

    It would also probably not surprise you they ended up voting for Jill Stein because “Hilary and the Democrats were just as bad!” and will vigorously defend that decision to this day.

    (Cue Kepler and his “Not Every Bernie Bro!” defense...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    (Cue Kepler and his “Not Every Bernie Bro!” defense...)
    No, that's trixie's job this cycle. Kep's job is to concern troll that we're being divisive and not serving the party's common interest of kicking Trump out of office when we make fun of Bernie cultists.
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    Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

    OK, this was pretty bad for Pete.

    https://youtu.be/YpBL9MYChAQ?t=258
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