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  • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    I'd actually be interested in a more in-depth look at this.

    Here's a site with budgets for FBS and FCS conferences and schools.

    The MAC's average budget is the following:

    42% Institutional Support
    22% Student Fees
    11% NCAA/Media distributions
    6% Donors
    5% Guarantees (this one surprises me)
    All other below 5%

    Big XII

    32% NCAA/Media distributions
    28% Donors
    21% Ticket Sales
    11% Sponsorships
    All other below 6%

    Now, obviously, these are just percentages, and the Big XII pulls in around 3x as much revenue, and it does take a certain "flat rate" to have athletics in the first place, so the MAC could be treading water as it is, but based on that the MAC actually has a more "stable" budget, barring school getting canceled, but if that happens there's no football anyway. You're right in that the bigger schools have way more money to take a hit with, but if the games go on with limited crowds, the Big XII loses 20% of their revenue, while the MAC loses less than 5%.

    I think if anything kills these sports, it's the loss of NCAA distribution from the tournament getting canceled. They only paid out about a third of their usual amount, and that was after digging into reserves.
    For Iowa, I believe that was $2.8MM in NCAA distribution last year, so for the big boys, that won’t matter.

    Northern Iowa has a total Athletic Department budget of $19 million, however...
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    • Originally posted by MavHockey14 View Post
      For Iowa, I believe that was $2.8MM in NCAA distribution last year, so for the big boys, that won’t matter.

      Northern Iowa has a total Athletic Department budget of $19 million, however...
      True, the NCAA distribution doesn’t hurt them much, but if there’s no football that media payout is going to drop.

      I realize my post made it sound like WMU could be in a better position than Texas Tech if the season were to be canceled, and I don’t want it to sound like that because in no way do I think that’s true. The entire reason the MAC has a more “stable” budget is because they’re basically treading water and need to force students to fund the athletic department. They probably do need every bit and piece of that budget, even if ticket sales only account for 3% of total revenue.

      But, I do think it would cause some of the P5 schools to take a second look at things. If this had happened six or seven years ago, Rutgers would have been in big trouble. They’re actually receiving a smaller payout now even after their “probationary” period in the Big Ten ended because they needed to borrow money. UConn is hemorrhaging cash at the moment. Maybe this could be the final blow to their program. I don’t think it would affect the SEC much because most of them are running with the NCAA minimum amount of sports, but what does a school like Ohio State do with 29 sports? Or Oklahoma with a niche sport like men’s gymnastics?
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      • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

        Yikes!

        SEC could play even if other conferences don’t because it just means more

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        • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

          Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
          Yikes!

          SEC could play even if other conferences don’t because it just means more

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          • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

            Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
            Yikes!

            SEC could play even if other conferences don’t because it just means more

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            • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

              MAC is making more cuts to the budget.

              This on top of elimination or contracting conference tournaments in other sports.

              Akron dropped three sports earlier this week and Bowling Green dropped baseball today.
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                Furman drops baseball and men’s lacrosse.

                Covid athletic casualties:
                Urbana U (OH) - D2 school closed, though they were likely going to go close regardless
                Florida Tech - D2 football dropped
                Akron - men’s golf and cross country, women’s tennis dropped
                Bowling Green - baseball dropped
                Furman - baseball and men’s lacrosse dropped
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                • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

                  Interesting thought experiment: what if all sports ended, everywhere? Where would all that money, energy, time, and public participation go?
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                    • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

                      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
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                      Sports is certainly one way the ruling class keeps the proles' minds off their enslavement. Without that distraction things might get a little dire for the rich.

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                      • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Sports is certainly one way the ruling class keeps the proles' minds off their enslavement. Without that distraction things might get a little dire for the rich.

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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Interesting thought experiment: what if all sports ended, everywhere? Where would all that money, energy, time, and public participation go?
                          Video games, especially shooters.

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                          • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

                            Central Michigan cuts men's track and field.

                            Track must be a lot more expensive than I think to run because it always seems to be one of the first ones on the chopping block even though on its face it looks extremely cheap. They're keeping women's track and both men's and women's cross country. All of those teams share the same coaching staff, so theoretically everyone still has a job, though I'm sure some consolidation will happen. Since you still get five scholarships with just a XC team, they're basically just cutting 7.6 scholarships with this move and whatever associated travel costs, but even those seem low. It looks like they take a few long trips each year, but other than that with the number of interdivisional meets and the number of D2 schools in Michigan, everything is within 4-5 hour drive.

                            Also, looks like I missed a couple earlier, Old Dominion dropped wrestling, Cincy dropped men's soccer and FIU dropped men's indoor track.
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                            • Re: College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

                              They'll drop any low-profile sport with little-to-no gate revenue. No one watches or cares about track below the Olympic level except for runners' families. The only reason they cut the men instead of the women is Title IX.

                              Other sports also have sunk costs that track does not have, like an on-campus pool for the swimming teams.

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                              • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                They'll drop any low-profile sport with little-to-no gate revenue. No one watches or cares about track below the Olympic level except for runners' families. The only reason they cut the men instead of the women is Title IX.

                                Other sports also have sunk costs that track does not have, like an on-campus pool for the swimming teams.
                                You’d be surprised at the popularity of college track and its importance in developing world class athletes not just for the US.
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