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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I don't think Yang's are actually coming from the Kremlin. I think it's the nerdgasm that gave us the Ron Paul Revolution a couple cycles back. Pasty computer geeks who have never kissed a girl really love technocratic solutions.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

    Yeah Yang's support doesnt come from the Kremlin...it comes from the offshoot of the Bernbots who think people like Kepler are Corpratist Sellouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Yeah Yang's support doesnt come from the Kremlin...it comes from the offshoot of the Bernbots who think people like Kepler are Corpratist Sellouts
    To be fair, I have a floor (So what, so what, so what?) so I am, in fact, a corporate sellout.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

    Search ĎButtigieg deficití on Twitter. Another sad reminder of how much our country has completely lost the plot. He gave a perfectly reasonable response to a good question and now is copping it on social media.

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    Because social media is filled with people who think we can afford everything and ignore the debt.

    If we manage to save the planet and not kill half the world in the process, the debt is the next looming crisis. Maybe itís not. But at some point, some insane idiot is going to do something stupid on the world stage and it will suddenly become an anchor.






    Oh and Iím not just referring to the BernBros. Iím also referring to the MICurbators like Bolton.
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    The debt is mostly just used as boogeyman to justify the idea that we canít have nice things. In reality the US owns its own currency and can pay down the debt as necessary but so far itís not nearly as big a problem as people make it out to be, the AA+ Moodyís rating being a good indicator of that. And in reality itís pretty low on the list of problems or threats to this countryís well being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I don't want to live like them or, worse, near them. I mean have you met them?
    Neither did Honecker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    The debt is mostly just used as boogeyman to justify the idea that we canít have nice things. In reality the US owns its own currency and can pay down the debt as necessary but so far itís not nearly as big a problem as people make it out to be, the AA+ Moodyís rating being a good indicator of that. And in reality itís pretty low on the list of problems or threats to this countryís well being.
    How did Moodyís do leading up to the Great Recession? The debt is one of those things that isnít a big problem until it is. What is going to kill us is the interest to service it and as we get further in debt and purchasers of the debt need a higher risk premium we will be in trouble. If the cost even goes up 100 basis points that would really hurt the budget.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    The debt is mostly just used as boogeyman to justify the idea that we canít have nice things. In reality the US owns its own currency and can pay down the debt as necessary but so far itís not nearly as big a problem as people make it out to be, the AA+ Moodyís rating being a good indicator of that. And in reality itís pretty low on the list of problems or threats to this countryís well being.
    well there is the debt, and then there is the fact that we continue to run $1T+ deficits during what is supposedly a booming economy. That is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    well there is the debt, and then there is the fact that we continue to run $1T+ deficits during what is supposedly a booming economy. That is a problem.
    Yeah, that isnít the Democrats fault. Thatís the whole problem with Peteís statement. If the Dems had given a giant tax break for no reason, then heíd have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Yeah, that isnít the Democrats fault. Thatís the whole problem with Peteís statement. If the Dems had given a giant tax break for no reason, then heíd have a point.
    He didnít say it was. His statement was simply that it isnít something that traditionally democrats run on. The more important bit is that heís a million percent right that we should be concerned and action needs to be taken. Him and I are close in age and the debt/deficit situation is going to be like a lead weight around the countyís neck for the rest of our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Yeah, that isn’t the Democrats fault. That’s the whole problem with Pete’s statement. If the Dems had given a giant tax break for no reason, then he’d have a point.
    doesn't meat the next president should ignore the deficit or add to it

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    Well at least republicans will care about the deficit again once a dem is elected right

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    Well at least republicans will care about the deficit again once a dem is elected right
    they'll care about the deficit as long as there is social security or medicare to take away from poor people!

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    Well at least republicans will care about the deficit again once a dem is elected right
    They sure will. And when they get in power again they'll be making sure to pass another trillion dollar stock buyback tax cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    He didnít say it was. His statement was simply that it isnít something that traditionally democrats run on. The more important bit is that heís a million percent right that we should be concerned and action needs to be taken. Him and I are close in age and the debt/deficit situation is going to be like a lead weight around the countyís neck for the rest of our lives.
    The largest complaint about any Dem progressive program is that it will drive up the deficit. Yeah, sure, literally on its face, heís not saying itís the Democrats fault, but itís a common GOP talking point that Dems just want to spend money for why we should never do anything that might help the common man.

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    And I'll ask this in response to my own post below. When are the people in this country going to figure out that the stock market doesn't do enough for them that a trillion dollar tax cut just to boost it is a bad deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    And I'll ask this in response to my own post below. When are the people in this country going to figure out that the stock market doesn't do enough for them that a trillion dollar tax cut just to boost it is a bad deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    The largest complaint about any Dem progressive program is that it will drive up the deficit. Yeah, sure, literally on its face, heís not saying itís the Democrats fault, but itís a common GOP talking point that Dems just want to spend money for why we should never do anything that might help the common man.
    The country going bankrupt sure as hell wonít help the common man. The deficits donít matter crowd(and Iím not saying that is necessarily from the left) is as crazy as the supply side economics crowd.

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