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Originally posted by The Rube View PostThis is the part that scares me. Of course ANYTHING replacing Trump is better...but moving forward, is that "anything" going to do as much damage? Don't get me wrong, for a term, sure. Vote whoever in. But long term? Uh.............Last edited by burd; 11-21-2019, 06:19 AM.
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Originally posted by BassAle View PostI think you’re out of touch with where the average rust belt voter is now.
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Originally posted by ticapnews View PostThe average rust belt voter loves the establishment? Loves having their health insurance tied to a job which may no longer exist? I know how much I enjoyed watching my job move to India. That must be the part they love the most.
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Originally posted by The Rube View PostI am talking past the initial change. As you and others here know, I am not extreme left. I don't want extreme left. Is it better than Trump? Yes. No doubt. BUT, do I want THAT extreme? No. I do not want that, either.Last edited by Kepler; 11-21-2019, 07:51 AM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by BassAle View Postthey're scared of socialism, "PC culture", and brown people.
As for not liking brown people, they somehow managed to vote for Obama twice so they might be better at putting aside those prejudices than you think.
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Originally posted by ticapnews View PostThey're scared of the word Socialism. They love the policies of universal health, a living wage, taxing Wall Street...but when people label it "Socialism" they get nervous. A reaction borne from the Cold War. Happily the younger generations aren't concerned with that label because they don't associate it with the Soviet Union, they associate it with Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan - you know, the rest of the civilized world.
As for not liking brown people, they somehow managed to vote for Obama twice so they might be better at putting aside those prejudices than you think.
My boss fixates on alpha error. It's what he worries about it. Any discussion of the relative merits of economic systems makes him leap to examples of freeloaders. I fixate on beta error. I am willing to pay the friction cost of having some people freeload as long as everybody who tries can have a good life.
I think this is the core difference between the two of us and he agrees. The fascinating thing to me is he's the one who has made a sincere commitment to follow Jesus' teachings and I'm the ostensibly morally ambiguous atheist. By all rights, we should be reversed.Cornell University
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostJoe Biden: I am endorsed by the only black female senator in history
Kamala Harris: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Cornell University
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I have been saying for years that until the Boomers die off Socialism is going to be the Boogeyman. It isnt right but it is the truth. And no amount of educating them at this point is going to change that. The only way to get them on board is to take away what they already have. No one wants to get rid of socialism if it is their socialism being taken away."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostI have been saying for years that until the Boomers die off Socialism is going to be the Boogeyman. It isnt right but it is the truth. And no amount of educating them at this point is going to change that. The only way to get them on board is to take away what they already have. No one wants to get rid of socialism if it is their socialism being taken away.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostHow hard is it for some young democratic socialist to say, "What would call making sure our nation's children and veterans and elderly and sick get a fair shake? I call it Americanism!" Mic drop, the end."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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