2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Your excitement level is in direct correlation to the candidate that you think is most likely to lose, thus giving you something to b itch about. If you told me you were a die hard Cleveland Browns fan, I wouldn't be surprised in the least.

However, its not personal. I push back on anybody who is either an absolutist that wants a candidate in their own image or who starts pimping 3rd parties as a logical alternative to the Chump Reign of Terror. You are obviously more comfortable with losing than winning. Winning takes effort. Losing doesn't. Problem is your attitude is deadly when it comes to actually winning next year and taking over govt from the Nazis.

So, only candidates that are under the delusion they can work with the terrorists are going to win? Is that where we're at right now?

[BassAle]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

So, only candidates that are under the delusion they can work with the terrorists are going to win? Is that where we're at right now?

the middle 1/3rd of the electorate will want someone to at least give lip service to working across the aisle

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

the middle 1/3rd of the electorate will want someone to at least give lip service to working across the aisle

Exactly. Anybody who's married or has kids (or both) is used to saying things to keep the peace that you don't necessarily mean. "Yes I'm thrilled to be working on the wedding invitations", "yes, that looks good on you", "no, I'm not mad that you struck out to end the game against the team with all the annoying parents rooting for it". Makes me wonder how Scooby has lived this long.

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Read this https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...b-rule/568351/ They didn’t want to see us go down the road of fascism, socialism(or at least extreme socialism), mob rule, etc. Buttigieg is highly intelligent, accomplished, and fairly moderate. Those are the things they would want in a president.

His plan is to ensure a permanent conservative majority on the supreme court so IDK about that.

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

His plan is to ensure a permanent conservative majority on the supreme court so IDK about that.

Wait - I thought that already happened? Can you guys at least try to be consistent?

[mookie1995]

the middle 1/3rd of the electorate will want someone to at least give lip service to working across the aisle

The middle one third knows how the chit goes down. They don't expecting much.

[St. Clown]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Exactly. Anybody who's married or has kids (or both) is used to saying things to keep the peace that you don't necessarily mean. "Yes I'm thrilled to be working on the wedding invitations", "yes, that looks good on you", "no, I'm not mad that you struck out to end the game against the team with all the annoying parents rooting for it". Makes me wonder how Scooby has lived this long.

My bet - the answer isn't "happily."

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Wait - I thought that already happened? Can you guys at least try to be consistent?

Well with other candidates there's at least a chance of doing something different. His plan of adding 15 or whatever, 5 of which are conservative just plans to further entrench it.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

For how and why this did not happen under Obama one could read @KevinMKruse and @julianzelizer's new book, chapter 14. They could also just recall reading a newspaper at any point in the last 10 years. https://t.co/aFV69HCBfO

— William Cavert (@WilliamMCavert) December 9, 2019

[Drew S.]

For how and why this did not happen under Obama one could read @KevinMKruse and @julianzelizer's new book, chapter 14. They could also just recall reading a newspaper at any point in the last 10 years. https://t.co/aFV69HCBfO

— William Cavert (@WilliamMCavert) December 9, 2019

I want a president who gives up, just what the doctor ordered.

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

The Republicans gave up 11 years ago when Obama got elected.

[Drew S.]

The Republicans gave up 11 years ago when Obama got elected.

So you want the democrats to become like them?

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

We need the democrats to acknowledge reality which is something you, Pete, and Biden are clearly failing to do.

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

We need the democrats to acknowledge reality which is something you, Pete, and Biden are clearly failing to do.

And if Bernie or Warren are where the party is now they'll be the nominee. Let the process play out. We haven't even had one primary yet.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

We need the democrats to acknowledge reality which is something you, Pete, and Biden are clearly failing to do.

That won't happen. They'll keep running to kick the football and Lucy (Republicans) will keep pulling the football away. And the circle will continue over and over and over and over again. Just like it has since 1980.