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  • #901
    Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Pretty sure this episode will be the Emmy entry for Jodie comer and she should win.
    Yes. Had Emmy bait all over it. Arguably it was even written with that in mind.
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    • #902
      Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      The only one that really bugs me is Stuck in the Middle, and (happily) I never liked the song. It's just such a stupid, irresponsible, gratuitous and worthless scene in all respects. I love Tarantino but it was so offensive for a scene which doesn't matter in any way to the story. Madsden already fully develops his character before then with fantastic underacted touches. Only the high school kids needed the torture porn.

      Songs like Gimme Shelter are so iconic they dwarf any film use. For example Jumpin' Jack Flash towers over the Whoopie scene. Likewise, Blue Danube survives 2001 untouched but Zarathustra has been compromised by it.
      The Dogs scene was essential to the plot, though. I was surprised at the LACK of detail (the showing of it all) of the actions, given the future movies of QT. It furthers the plot point of The Rat and The Cop's conversation later on.

      And while I agree to a point on the icon songs (the aforementioned Bohemian), sometimes you cannot think of another song that would fit so perfectly with the scene/sequence.

      Breaking Bad had a couple good ones (Marty Robbins' "El Paso" and The Associations' "Windy").
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      • #903
        Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

        Originally posted by The Rube View Post
        And while I agree to a point on the icon songs (the aforementioned Bohemian), sometimes you cannot think of another song that would fit so perfectly with the scene/sequence.
        The Wayne's World lead in is, for my money, the single greatest match of song to narrative device in movie history. Everything about it is perfect. It's a master's in film writing just by itself. You couldn't establish those characters any better with hundreds of lines of dialog or exposition. That is genius writing.
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        • #904
          Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          The Wayne's World lead in is, for my money, the single greatest match of song to narrative device in movie history. Everything about it is perfect. It's a master's in film writing just by itself. You couldn't establish those characters any better with hundreds of lines of dialog or exposition. That is genius writing.
          The following makes inclusion of that song even better (IMDB):
          The studio wanted to use a Guns N' Roses track instead of "Bohemian Rhapsody", but Mike Myers fought for the inclusion of the Queen song. Myers even threatened to quit the production if he didn't get what he wanted, and eventually the studio gave in to his demand.
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          • #905
            Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

            I watched the original movie that this song came from but my mind wandered elsewhere

            Not a movie but every time I hear this song my mind goes here
            "I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."
            Groucho Marx
            "You can't fix stupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. Stupid is forever. "
            Ron White
            "If we stop being offensive, the Terrorists win."
            Milo Bloom

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            • #906
              Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
              Pretty sure this episode will be the Emmy entry for Jodie comer and she should win.
              I was thinking the same thing for much of the episode. Fantastic in many ways.

              Also I forgot to mention that I did not mind seeing Niko get offed the previous episide.

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              • #907
                Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                The Wayne's World lead in is, for my money, the single greatest match of song to narrative device in movie history. Everything about it is perfect. It's a master's in film writing just by itself. You couldn't establish those characters any better with hundreds of lines of dialog or exposition. That is genius writing.
                Well, maybe this. You know exactly what this movie is, and who these kids are, without a bit of dialog to tell you.

                The slo-mo of that GTO cruising through the parking lot is an amazing shot.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrtQ5uIOcKY
                Last edited by rufus; 05-13-2020, 06:31 AM.
                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                • #908
                  Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                  Hard to beat Apocalypse Now for a musical intro. Don't sleep on Dog Day Afternoon, Do The Right Thing, Pulp Fiction, The Graduate, Trainspotting, MASH.

                  For very different reasons the intro to Day For Night is one of my favorites, although pretty meaningless unless you watch the entire film.

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                  • #909
                    Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                    Originally posted by rufus View Post
                    Well, maybe this. You know exactly what this movie is, and who these kids are, without a bit of dialog to tell you.

                    The slo-mo of that GTO cruising through the parking lot is an amazing shot.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrtQ5uIOcKY
                    Good example.
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                    • #910
                      Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                      Finished The Sopranos and now having seen the episodes I missed (season 4 and 2:3 of season 6) I still feel the same: great ending, Tony Lives.

                      Starting Justified now. Walton Goggins is great!
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                      "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                      "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

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                      • #911
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Yes. Had Emmy bait all over it. Arguably it was even written with that in mind.
                        The scene where she just laughed at the Russian who said the earth was flat was perfect. As was her scene dancing at the harvest festival while playing the game

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                        • #912
                          Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                          Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                          Finished The Sopranos and now having seen the episodes I missed (season 4 and 2:3 of season 6) I still feel the same: great ending, Tony Lives.

                          Starting Justified now. Walton Goggins is great!
                          Justified is awesome. It loses its way IIRC in the 4th (?) season? Elmore Leonard (creator) passed, and I think the writers didn't know exactly what to do with the storylines, but they got back on track for the final seasons.

                          There's a related SoA post here, but I sure as hell don't want to spoil it, as it concerns Walton Goggins.
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                          • #913
                            Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                            Had an episode from the first season of JAG playing in the background yesterday, and noticed Walton Goggins in he credits. Didn't see him in the show, as it was a bit part, and I really wasn't paying full attention. But the main guest star was a young, brown-haired Neal McDonough.
                            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                            • #914
                              Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                              Justified is awesome. It loses its way IIRC in the 4th (?) season? Elmore Leonard (creator) passed, and I think the writers didn't know exactly what to do with the storylines, but they got back on track for the final seasons.

                              There's a related SoA post here, but I sure as hell don't want to spoil it, as it concerns Walton Goggins.
                              Finished season 1, looking forward to the rest. I also want to buy the book or novella this is based on.

                              Thanks for not leaving spoilers!!
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                              "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                              "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                              Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                              • #915
                                Re: TV: A Succession of Watchmen in The Good Place

                                Dark Side Of The Ring...man...when I was a kid I loved wrestling and to see what happened to The Road Warriors Hawk is tragic. Those guys had it all. My Dad took me to AWA shows and i’ll Never forget the day I saw these two monster bad asses walk into the arena to Black Sabbath’s “Iron Man” and as they approached the ring they began to run, slid under the ropes and started pummeling the **** out of whomever before the bell even rang!

                                Legends! RIP Mike/Hawk.
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                                "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                                "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                                Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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