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    USCHO Division I Women's Poll - December 2, 2019
    Rnk Team (Last Poll)
    1 Wisconsin (2)
    2 Minnesota (1)
    3 Northeastern (4)
    4 Cornell (3)
    5 Ohio State (6)
    6 Princeton (5)
    7 Clarkson (7)
    8 Boston College (8)
    9 Boston University (10)
    10 Minnesota Duluth (9)
    Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst 5, Robert Morris 5, Harvard 1

    Movement at the top this week as Wisconsin replaces Minnesota by the slimmest of margins, 143 points to 142. Northeastern takes over the No. 3 spot while Cornell moves down one to No. 4. Ohio State continues its steady climb to No. 5. The WCHA now has three of its teams represented in the Top 5. Could this be a first for any league?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    The WCHA now has three of its teams represented in the Top 5. Could this be a first for any league?
    No, there have been seasons for both the WCHA and ECAC Hockey where they have had three teams reach the Frozen Four. The WCHA had four teams in the top five in this poll from last year:
    https://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-w...ll/2018-10-08/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    No, there have been seasons for both the WCHA and ECAC Hockey where they have had three teams reach the Frozen Four. The WCHA had four teams in the top five in this poll from last year:
    https://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-w...ll/2018-10-08/
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    USCHO Division I Women's Poll - December 9, 2019
    Rnk Team (Last Poll)
    1 Wisconsin (1)
    2 Minnesota (2)
    3 Northeastern (3)
    4 Cornell (4)
    5 Ohio State (5)
    6 Clarkson (7)
    7 Princeton (6)
    8 Boston University (9)
    9 Boston College (8)
    10 Minnesota Duluth (10)
    Others receiving votes: Harvard 6, Mercyhurst 5, Quinnipiac 1, Robert Morris 1

    No change in the Top 5. Otherwise, Clarkson and Princeton trade places at Nos. 6 and 7 while Boston University/Boston College trade 8 and 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    USCHO Division I Women's Poll - December 9, 2019
    Rnk Team (Last Poll)
    1 Wisconsin (1)
    2 Minnesota (2)
    3 Northeastern (3)
    4 Cornell (4)
    5 Ohio State (5)
    6 Clarkson (7)
    7 Princeton (6)
    8 Boston University (9)
    9 Boston College (8)
    10 Minnesota Duluth (10)
    Others receiving votes: Harvard 6, Mercyhurst 5, Quinnipiac 1, Robert Morris 1

    No change in the Top 5. Otherwise, Clarkson and Princeton trade places at Nos. 6 and 7 while Boston University/Boston College trade 8 and 9.
    Harvard Why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOpinion View Post
    Harvard Why ?
    I keep feeling like UMD is being overrated. I haven't done the research enough to recommend the team to take their place but it seems like getting swept by Bemidji and losing to Q alone would keep them out of the Top Ten.

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    UMD is definitely a team with good wins and bad losses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    UMD is definitely a team with good wins and bad losses.
    WIN singular
    1-5-2 against top ten

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOpinion View Post
    Harvard Why ?
    Moral victories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Moral victories?
    I’m sending you and Still Eeyore some Crimson swag in recognition of your support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arenalife View Post
    WIN singular
    1-5-2 against top ten
    UMD also has wins over Mercyhurst and Colgate, two teams in that next pack just outside of the top 10. So if we're saying, "If not the 'Dogs, then who?" it is less attractive to replace UMD by a team with an even shakier resume. In most years, there isn't one perfect answer about who should be #10 (even #9 or #8), and a case can be made for other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    UMD also has wins over Mercyhurst and Colgate, two teams in that next pack just outside of the top 10. So if we're saying, "If not the 'Dogs, then who?" it is less attractive to replace UMD by a team with an even shakier resume. In most years, there isn't one perfect answer about who should be #10 (even #9 or #8), and a case can be made for other options.
    I suggest we follow the lead of the Big Ten and include 14 teams in the top ten. That would eliminate the close calls. Or, we could follow the lead of the Big Ten and include 7 teams in the top ten. That would eliminate the marginal teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdtime's . . . View Post
    I’m sending you and Still Eeyore some Crimson swag in recognition of your support.
    SE will not be happy (what's new) that you included him in with me on that deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leather helmet View Post
    I suggest we ... include 7 teams in the top ten. That would eliminate the marginal teams.
    given that the top CHA team is guaranteed a spot, those are the only ones that matter

    8 thru 10 are just window dressing

    Quote Originally Posted by Offsides Guy View Post
    I keep feeling like UMD is being overrated. I haven't done the research enough to recommend the team to take their place but it seems like getting swept by Bemidji and losing to Q alone would keep them out of the Top Ten.
    how about Bemidji? they have a better record, plus as you mentioned, swept UMD

    but if you look at the teams outside the top nine, which team would you say has the best chance to make the NCAA, and which has the best chance to win it?

    I can't see any other team than UMD taking a conference tournament.
    And if any of the 10 thru 36 made the tournament, IMO only UMD would have a legitimate shot at winning it
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    given that the top CHA team is guaranteed a spot, those are the only ones that matter

    8 thru 10 are just window dressing



    how about Bemidji? they have a better record, plus as you mentioned, swept UMD

    but if you look at the teams outside the top nine, which team would you say has the best chance to make the NCAA, and which has the best chance to win it?

    I can't see any other team than UMD taking a conference tournament.
    And if any of the 10 thru 36 made the tournament, IMO only UMD would have a legitimate shot at winning it
    I would love to see Bemidji in the top 10 but their early season losses and ties with Lindenwood and Providence put them in a deep hole. If they can pull off, say, 3 wins out of their second half series with WI, MN, OSU & UMD - and beat who they’re supposed to - I think then there’s a case to put them in the top 10.

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    As another measure, KRACH right now isn't sold on Hockey East teams. It has Northeastern down at #7, which seems too low to me, and BC at #14 -- two spots below Bemidji.
    https://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/

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    Rank	Team	        Rating	
    1	Wisconsin	9633.
    2	Minnesota	6189.	
    3	Cornell	        4899.	
    4	Ohio State	2059.	
    5	Princeton	1372.	
    6	Clarkson	1039.	
    7	Northeastern	931.2	
    8	Minnesota Duluth	631.7	
    9	Harvard	                528.6	
    10	Boston University	515.1	
    11	Robert Morris	406.4	
    12	Bemidji State	385.8	
    13	Colgate	        334.2	
    14	Boston College  301.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    As another measure, KRACH right now isn't sold on Hockey East teams. It has Northeastern down at #7, which seems too low to me, and BC at #14 -- two spots below Bemidji.
    https://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/

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    Rank	Team	        Rating	
    1	Wisconsin	9633.
    2	Minnesota	6189.	
    3	Cornell	        4899.	
    4	Ohio State	2059.	
    5	Princeton	1372.	
    6	Clarkson	1039.	
    7	Northeastern	931.2	
    8	Minnesota Duluth	631.7	
    9	Harvard	                528.6	
    10	Boston University	515.1	
    11	Robert Morris	406.4	
    12	Bemidji State	385.8	
    13	Colgate	        334.2	
    14	Boston College  301.0
    Yeah that's DEFINITELY wrong. They have a bug somewhere. The strength of schedule numbers are in outer space (LIU played Wisconsin twice and their SOS is literally a decimal lol).

    My calculator has NU in 5th: https://www.bcinterruption.com/bosto...ach-calculator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Offsides Guy View Post
    I would love to see Bemidji in the top 10 but their early season losses and ties with Lindenwood and Providence put them in a deep hole. If they can pull off, say, 3 wins out of their second half series with WI, MN, OSU & UMD - and beat who they’re supposed to - I think then there’s a case to put them in the top 10.
    I’m not suggesting they should be, just saying there is a case for them being ranked above UMD.

    In fact, the same argument could be made with UM & UW, how can you rank UW above UM, when they have played two games and couldn’t win either of them? Anybody who saw those games knows which is the better team. I really don’t think either of those two teams deserve the #1 right now.
    IMO, Cornell has the best argument for #1, a tie to Princeton, who Cornell came back to convincingly beat, and a loss to tOSU, and at this point, a loss to them doesn’t look like what it did earlier.
    In any case, it is pretty tight at one thru four, IMO
    tOSU has to beat UW to prove they are also in the top tier

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    USCHO Division I Women's Poll – January 6, 2020
    Rnk Team (Last Poll)
    1 Wisconsin (1)
    2 Minnesota (2)
    3 Northeastern (3)
    4 Cornell (4)
    5 Clarkson (6)
    5 Ohio State (5)
    7 Princeton (7)
    8 Boston University (8)
    9 Harvard (NR)
    10 Minnesota Duluth (10)
    Others receiving votes: Boston College 8, Robert Morris 5, Providence 4

    No change in the Top 4 since the last poll taken nearly a month ago on December 9th. Changes below those Top 4 include Clarkson moving into a tie at No. 5 with Ohio State, Harvard rejoining the poll at No. 9, and Boston College dropping out of the poll after having lost their last four games, including two to Hockey East rival Boston University.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    USCHO Division I Women's Poll – January 6, 2020
    Rnk Team (Last Poll)
    1 Wisconsin (1)
    2 Minnesota (2)
    3 Northeastern (3)
    4 Cornell (4)
    5 Clarkson (6)
    5 Ohio State (5)
    7 Princeton (7)
    8 Boston University (8)
    9 Harvard (NR)
    10 Minnesota Duluth (10)
    Others receiving votes: Boston College 8, Robert Morris 5, Providence 4

    No change in the Top 4 since the last poll taken nearly a month ago on December 9th. Changes below those Top 4 include Clarkson moving into a tie at No. 5 with Ohio State, Harvard rejoining the poll at No. 9, and Boston College dropping out of the poll after having lost their last four games, including two to Hockey East rival Boston University.
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