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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    William Smith 4 Elmira 3 in OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwatcher View Post
    William Smith 4 Elmira 3 in OT
    UCHC might be more wide open this year than initially thought.

    Nazareth and William Smith both have been able to take down Elmira...

    And I said it early this week, tough for Elmira to go all the way up to Plattsburgh on Friday night for a 7pm game and then try and come back against a quality William Smith team on Sunday afternoon.

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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    Tough one to put together this week....I think this is the best option trying to adhere to the 500 mile rule and avoiding intraconference first-round matchups.

    Nazareth at Adrian vs. Plattsburgh
    Amherst at Endicott
    Gustavus Adolphus at River Falls vs. Eau Claire
    Norwich at Middlebury

    River Falls and Gusty kind of get screwed having to play a play-in game, but that's the only way to avoid a flight within that trio.

    Nazareth and Adrian could potentially create a flight if Adrian wins and has to go to Plattsburgh, but I'm honestly not quite sure how else to try and do it.

    Be intrigued to see if someone else comes up with something else that would also make sense and have the potential for two flights or less like this one does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
    Tough one to put together this week....I think this is the best option trying to adhere to the 500 mile rule and avoiding intraconference first-round matchups.

    Nazareth at Adrian vs. Plattsburgh
    Amherst at Endicott
    Gustavus Adolphus at River Falls vs. Eau Claire
    Norwich at Middlebury

    River Falls and Gusty kind of get screwed having to play a play-in game, but that's the only way to avoid a flight within that trio.

    Nazareth and Adrian could potentially create a flight if Adrian wins and has to go to Plattsburgh, but I'm honestly not quite sure how else to try and do it.

    Be intrigued to see if someone else comes up with something else that would also make sense and have the potential for two flights or less like this one does.
    I thought it was avoiding flights before the semis, not just the first round.

    I think with a field where it's Nazareth instead of Elmira they would bump Naz at Adrian to the QF to guarantee no flights before the semis.

    It could be:

    (Norwich @ Amherst) vs Plattsburgh
    Endicott @ Middlebury
    Nazareth @ Adrian
    (GAC @ River Falls) vs Eau Claire

    The above avoids flights before the semis, no intraconference in the first round and rewards the highest teams in the PWR by keeping them out of the first round (except RF). Middlebury loses out in a way as they would be hosting the #4 PWR team in Endicott in the quarters instead of a lower ranked opponent but they're still treated more fairly as the 2 seed than Plattsburgh was last year.
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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_TG View Post
    I thought it was avoiding flights before the semis, not just the first round.

    I think with a field where it's Nazareth instead of Elmira they would bump Naz at Adrian to the QF to guarantee no flights before the semis.

    It could be:

    (Norwich @ Amherst) vs Plattsburgh
    Endicott @ Middlebury
    Nazareth @ Adrian
    (GAC @ River Falls) vs Eau Claire

    The above avoids flights before the semis, no intraconference in the first round and rewards the highest teams in the PWR by keeping them out of the first round (except RF). Middlebury loses out in a way as they would be hosting the #4 PWR team in Endicott in the quarters instead of a lower ranked opponent but they're still treated more fairly as the 2 seed than Plattsburgh was last year.
    Certainly could do that as well....I guess I had my blinders on about the two lowest seeds in the tournament both getting a straight bye to the quarterfinals, which is what Adrian and Nazareth are currently. But, you're probably correct. The bracket you proposed would be used since there is only one flight and the one I proposed there is the potential of having two.
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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    In fairness, Ha,line did beat GAC and tied them in their two matchups this year. Hamline has fire power with I think 4 of 5 top scorers in MIAC. They have given up some late goals that have cost them some games aNd slip in PWR. In end, they are going to be tough. IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healthyscratch View Post
    In fairness, Ha,line did beat GAC and tied them in their two matchups this year. Hamline has fire power with I think 4 of 5 top scorers in MIAC. They have given up some late goals that have cost them some games aNd slip in PWR. In end, they are going to be tough. IMHO
    Obviously, this could change with conference tournaments, but it's a snapshot in time and some sort of criteria has to be used. It's all just for fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    Obviously, this could change with conference tournaments, but it's a snapshot in time and some sort of criteria has to be used. It's all just for fun...
    Bingo.

    It's the only way you can predict it really. There are literally 1000s of scenarios that could happen, just use the scenario of using the conference leaders as the champions just for posterity sake and show people the process of how the teams get selected for the tournament.

    The PWR has been great from that standpoint...it's all right there...win your conference tournament if you have an AQ and then the next three best teams are in.

    Obviously the PWR can and will change in the remaining three weeks of hockey. Lots of games left to be played that can alter the current rankings.
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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    Quote Originally Posted by Healthyscratch View Post
    In fairness, Ha,line did beat GAC and tied them in their two matchups this year. Hamline has fire power with I think 4 of 5 top scorers in MIAC. They have given up some late goals that have cost them some games aNd slip in PWR. In end, they are going to be tough. IMHO
    They are tough but they are more than likely going to have to win the MIAC to make the tourney. They would need a combination of the following to happen to get a Pool C:

    1) Gustavus would have to win the MIAC. If St. Thomas wins it, GAC would likely garner one of the three Pool C bids.
    2) Amherst and Hamilton would have to start losing, in either or both this upcoming final regular season weekend or the NESCAC playoffs. Caveat there is Amherst is playing Colby and Colby is right behind Hamline in the PWR, so if they beat Amherst they could leap them.
    3) I think either River Falls or Eau Claire would have to sweep both the home and home and the WIAC championship. Probably better off for Hamline if Eau Claire can win out over River Falls.
    4) Midd, Plattsburgh, Elmira and Endicott win the Pool As bids they're eligible for.

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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    Does anyone know why the d3 tourney has expanded to 10 teams while d1 still has only 8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAHOCKEY FAN View Post
    Does anyone know why the d3 tourney has expanded to 10 teams while d1 still has only 8?
    There are less teams in D1 than D3. Their tourney actually has more bids than the access ratio. There are 41 teams and the access ratio is 6.5 which puts the number of bids they are required at 6 (416.5= 6.3 and drop the .3).

    DIII is at 67 teams. 676.5= 10.3

    Edit: doing the math, DIII is two new programs away from 11 bids. The number of teams that will push it to 11 is 72 and there will be 70 programs with the additions of WNEU and Lawrence this fall and Arcadia and Curry in 2021 and the subtraction of St. Thomas which intends to reclassify as a D1.
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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_TG View Post
    There are less teams in D1 than D3. Their tourney actually has more bids than the access ratio. There are 41 teams and the access ratio is 6.5 which puts the number of bids they are required at 6 (416.5= 6.3 and drop the .3).

    DIII is at 67 teams. 676.5= 10.3

    Edit: doing the math, DIII is two new programs away from 11 bids. The number of teams that will push it to 11 is 72 and there will be 70 programs with the additions of WNEU and Lawrence this fall and Arcadia and Curry in 2021 and the subtraction of St. Thomas which intends to reclassify as a D1.
    DI doesn't use the 1:6.5 access ratio - they have a different scheme. 11 teams in DIII isn't going to happen. They passed a rule that there must be an even number of teams.
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    Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

    Gustavus beats U-W Superior tonight 3-0.

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