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  • Originally posted by Birdwatcher View Post
    After 2 periods Plattsburgh 4 Oswego 1
    SOG 40-15 Plattsburgh
    Final.
    Plattsburgh 6 Oswego 1
    SOG 55-21 Plattsburgh
    Last edited by Birdwatcher; 03-07-2020, 04:49 PM.


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    • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

      UWRF & Eau Claire going to OT. Third time in four years.


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        River Falls win 2-1 in OT. Unbelievable hockey game.

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        • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

          And Amherst beats 2 seeded Colby. This could change with the last UCHC semifinal but it looks like Eau Claire is still the #3 PWR, River Falls will claim the 2nd Pool C.

          It looks like if both Middlebury and Elmira win out tomorrow that the final Pool C will be Amherst, Augsburg or Hamilton.

          If the field was picked right now it would be Amherst but they may fall if they lose tomorrow (and if they win Midd is almost certainly a Pool C).

          EDIT: Endicott cashes in on their Pool A bid, beating UNE for the final CHC Championship.
          Last edited by Scott_TG; 03-07-2020, 08:05 PM.

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          • Originally posted by D3WomensHockey
            Any thoughts on if Adrian/St Scholastica gets shipped East or West? I assume it depends on if Augsburg grabs the last Pool C?
            Adrian will go to Elmira as always. It’s a required matchup per NCAA rules as Elmira is the only team within the 500 mile drive limit.
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            • Originally posted by gojackets View Post
              Adrian will go to Elmira as always. It’s a required matchup per NCAA rules as Elmira is the only team within the 500 mile drive limit.
              So if Augsburg is the 3rd pool C, I assume both play ins are out east?

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              • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                Originally posted by D3WomensHockey
                Any thoughts on if Adrian/St Scholastica gets shipped East or West? I assume it depends on if Augsburg grabs the last Pool C?
                Adrian won and St. Scholastica is too far down the PWR to be considered. With the restrictions on travel Adrian will definitely play Elmira in the quarterfinals if Elmira wins tomorrow. They will not be a first round matchup as it would risk having to fly Adrian out for a quarterfinal if they beat Elmira in that game.

                Here's what the tournament looks like right now:

                Pool A bids:
                CHC: Endicott
                MIAC: Gustavus Adolphus
                NCHA: Adrian
                NEHC: Norwich
                NEWHL: Plattsburgh
                NESCAC: Winner of Amherst @ Middlebury
                UCHC: Winner of Manhattanville @ Elmira

                Pool C bids:
                UW-Eau Claire
                UW-River Falls
                Amherst


                Scenarios:
                If Amherst wins, I don't think Middlebury would fall behind enough for Augsburg to overtake them. I think it would just be a swap of who is Pool A and who is Pool C and what ever implications it has on seeding.

                Amherst has 59 points and the next Pool C is Augsburg sitting at 57. If Amherst loses tomorrow, Augsburg needs Amherst's RPI to drop below both them and Norwich. Augsburg and Amherst have no common opponents so their comparison for 1 PWR point is on RPI alone and that would leave them tied at 58 PWR points.

                On the way down to where Augsburg is in RPI would take Amherst below Norwich in RPI as well and that would swing the PWR point decided between Amherst and Norwich over to the Cadets as Norwich has the COP advantage but Amherst has the H2H. Whoever finishes with the higher RPI after tomorrow wins that point. If Amherst falls below Norwich and Augsburg in RPI, it would give them 57 points and Augsburg would still have 58.

                If Amherst if the Pool C:
                First Round:
                Norwich @ Amherst
                GAC @ River Falls

                QF:
                Norwich/Amherst @ Plattsburgh
                Endicott @ Middlebury
                GAC/UW-RF @ UW-Eau Claire
                Adrian @ Elmira

                If Augsburg is the Pool C, I think they might put the four Wisconsin/Minnesota teams in the first round to avoid the flights:
                First Round:
                Augsburg @ Eau Claire
                GAC @ River Falls

                QF:
                Norwich @ Plattsburgh
                Endicott @ Middlebury
                GAC/River Falls @ Augsburg/Eau Claire
                Adrian @ Elmira

                This avoids both having flights before the semis and intra-conference games in the first round so the bracket works.
                Last edited by Scott_TG; 03-07-2020, 10:29 PM.

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                • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                  I'd be very surprised if Amherst fell below Augsburg considering the .0088 RPI gap. Amherst's win percentage will drop by .0298 with a loss but that's only 25 percent of the formula (.0075 off its RPI). And Amherst will get an SOS boost from playing a 21-2-3 team.

                  Where things would get really interesting is if Amherst and Manhattanville both win tomorrow, knocking Elmira out. That would mean Adrian would have to fly somewhere and make the bracket a lot harder to predict.

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                  • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                    Originally posted by SomeRandomGuy View Post
                    I'd be very surprised if Amherst fell below Augsburg considering the .0088 RPI gap. Amherst's win percentage will drop by .0298 with a loss but that's only 25 percent of the formula (.0075 off its RPI). And Amherst will get an SOS boost from playing a 21-2-3 team.

                    Where things would get really interesting is if Amherst and Manhattanville both win tomorrow, knocking Elmira out. That would mean Adrian would have to fly somewhere and make the bracket a lot harder to predict.
                    I'll give it a shot

                    If the Amherst and Manhattanville win the field would be:
                    Plattsburgh
                    Middlebury
                    Endicott
                    Eau Claire
                    River Falls
                    GAC
                    Amherst
                    Norwich
                    Adrian
                    Manhattanville

                    I think they would try to cut down on flights by putting Adrian through to the QF, but they have to play one seeded Plattsburgh to balance that out. They did that with St. Thomas flying to Plattsburgh a few years ago. I also think they may put the two Wisconsin teams and GAC to avoid a flight in the quarters involving any of them.

                    First round:
                    Manhattanville @ Norwich
                    GAC @ River Falls


                    QF
                    Adrian @ Plattsburgh
                    Norwich/Manhattanville @ Middlebury
                    GAC/RF @ UW-Eau Claire
                    Amherst @ Endicott

                    At the point where flights before the semis are inevitable this guarantees only 1 and it avoids intra-conference in the first round as well.

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                    • Originally posted by Scott_TG View Post

                      If Augsburg is the Pool C, I think they might put the four Wisconsin/Minnesota teams in the first round to avoid the flights:
                      First Round:
                      Augsburg @ Eau Claire
                      GAC @ River Falls

                      QF:
                      Norwich @ Plattsburgh
                      Endicott @ Middlebury
                      GAC/River Falls @ Augsburg/Eau Claire
                      Adrian @ Elmira

                      This avoids both having flights before the semis and intra-conference games in the first round so the bracket works.
                      If the first rounds were out East in this scenario there still wouldn’t be any QF flights.

                      Swap GAC/RF vs Aug/EC with End/Midd vs Nor/Platts and you don’t have any QF flights.

                      However with the current rankings, it does make more sense for the first rounds to be out west.


                      Of course the intelligent thing to do is take 5 grand of the multibillions they are about to make off Basketball and fly the Adrian/Elmira winner in a QF matchup.
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                      • Originally posted by gojackets View Post
                        If the first rounds were out East in this scenario there still wouldn’t be any QF flights.

                        Swap GAC/RF vs Aug/EC with End/Midd vs Nor/Platts and you don’t have any QF flights.

                        However with the current rankings, it does make more sense for the first rounds to be out west.


                        Of course the intelligent thing to do is take 5 grand of the multibillions they are about to make off Basketball and fly the Adrian/Elmira winner in a QF matchup.
                        If they use PWR for seeding your swap would put the top 3 seeds in the first round and I don't see why they'd do that. Both first rounds were out east last year, they shouldn't hesitate doing it to the west if the field and the travel restrictions make it necessary.

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                        • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                          Originally posted by gojackets View Post

                          Of course the intelligent thing to do is take 5 grand of the multibillions they are about to make off Basketball and fly the Adrian/Elmira winner in a QF matchup.
                          The cost of flying a travel party of 28 will be more than $5,000.00, but otherwise I do agree, but the NCAA is really inflexible about those rules.
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                          • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                            Middlebury and Amherst scoreless after 2.

                            Elmira and Manhattanville scoreless in the middle of the first

                            Edit: Amherst takes a 1-0 lead at 17:29 left in the third. #2 for Amherst got a breakaway and the Midd defender who arrived first couldn't clean up the rebound from Han's save and Wong scored the rebound.

                            Valiants and Soaring Eagles scoreless after 1.

                            Edit 2: Leidt tips one in to tie the game at 1 with 13:51 left. Amherst scores on the next shift 13 seconds later to make it 2-1.
                            Last edited by Scott_TG; 03-08-2020, 02:33 PM.

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                            • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                              Amherst holds on for the 2-1 win. They take the Pool A and Middlebury will be the third Pool C (likely the first or second depending on how this shakes out in PWR).

                              Elmira and Manhattanville is now a win or go home contest.

                              Manhattanville gave up the first goal but just scored two quick ones to make it 2-1 mid 2nd period.

                              Edit: Valiants score again! 3-1 lead on the Soaring Eagles

                              Edit 2: Elmira makes it 3-2, scoring on a power play that remained after a 5 on 3 expired. End of 2nd period came shortly after. SOG 26-11 in favor of Elmira.

                              Edit 3: Elmira tied it at 3 in the third. Currently 7+ mins left in the 3rd period.

                              Edit 4: UCHC POTY Emma Crocker puts Elmira ahead with a snipe from the slot. 6 mins left in the 3rd period.
                              Last edited by Scott_TG; 03-08-2020, 03:51 PM.

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                              • Re: 2019-20 D-III games / scores

                                Elmira completed the comeback and finished off Manhattanville 5-3.

                                With today's results the field is:

                                Pool A's:
                                CHC: Endicott
                                MIAC: Gustavus Adolphus
                                NCHA: Adrian
                                NEHC: Norwich
                                NESCAC: Amherst
                                NEWHL: Plattsburgh
                                UCHC: Elmira

                                Pool C's:
                                Middlebury
                                UW-Eau Claire
                                UW-River Falls

                                I think the bracket will shape up to:

                                First round:
                                Norwich @ Amherst
                                GAC @ River Falls

                                QFs:
                                Norwich/Amherst @ Plattsburgh
                                Endicott @ Middlebury
                                GAC/RF @ UW-Eau Claire
                                Adrian @ Elmira

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