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    • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

      Roberts is an a55clown.

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      • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        Roberts is an a55clown.
        Roberts is a tool used by the Plutes to shelter their thefts. Right now the best way to do that is to ensure Republican electoral victories. The man has a job to do.
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        • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

          Michigan is screwed until at least 2022 now. Nothing is getting done with Whitmer as gov with a Republican Congress.
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          • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

            Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
            Michigan is screwed until at least 2022 now. Nothing is getting done with Whitmer as gov with a Republican Congress.
            One thing about gerrymandering, though. It's great as long as you are close but it creates a cliff at about -8 points. All those votes you steal to flip the -3 suburban districts come from someplace and typically the geography doesn't let you take them from say +30 rural districts. You're taking them from +7/8/9/10 districts, so if the pendulum ever swings to a net -8 you don't just lose the districts you've been stealing you suddenly get destroyed in those districts you would have still held had you played fair.

            The stinger in the tail of gerrymandering is when it finally falls apart you go into freefall. The GOP has been snickering along for a decade but eventually they're going to roll double sixes and when that happens they are so massively f-cked it barely bears thinking about.
            Last edited by Kepler; 10-21-2019, 01:46 PM.
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            • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              One thing about gerrymandering, though. It's great as long as you are close but it creates a cliff at about -8 points. All those votes you steal to flip the -3 suburban districts come from someplace and typically the geography doesn't let you take them from say +30 rural districts. You're taking them from +7/8/9/10 districts, so if the pendulum ever swings to a net -8 you don't just lose the districts you've been stealing you suddenly get destroyed in those districts you would have still held had you played fair.

              The stinger in the tail of gerrymandering is when it finally falls apart you go into freefall. The GOP has been snickering along for a decade but eventually they're going to roll double sixes and when that happens they are so massively f-cked it barely bears thinking about.
              In addition to your well stated analysis I'd also say that those lines were drawn 10 years ago when the electorate's leanings were a bit different. As in that was before educated people starting running for the door. Even with an extreme gerrymander Virginia's legislature was on a knife's edge before the courts stepped in and redrew the lines.

              Unfortunately its going to be a state by state slog but its starting to pay dividends. Re-elect Whitmer and one more state supreme court justice to enforce the referendum and Michigan is on its way.
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              • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                In addition to your well stated analysis I'd also say that those lines were drawn 10 years ago when the electorate's leanings were a bit different. As in that was before educated people starting running for the door. Even with an extreme gerrymander Virginia's legislature was on a knife's edge before the courts stepped in and redrew the lines.

                Unfortunately its going to be a state by state slog but its starting to pay dividends. Re-elect Whitmer and one more state supreme court justice to enforce the referendum and Michigan is on its way.
                Yes, agreed completely. It will be a house-to-house battle, literally, where we are fighting to control each state leg to roll back vote suppression and police the outright electoral fraud the Nazis are now relying on. The deep south (MS, AL, LA, TN) and the, I dunno, "deep prairie"? (KS, NE, OK, WY) are lost forever, but almost everywhere else we should have a fighting chance of dislodging the fascists. But there will also be setbacks where they keep stealing elections, like NC and FL. We just have to keep going. Our defeatism is the Nazis' best ally.
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                • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                  Good for her.

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                  • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                    The Fascist Five had a chance to do something evil today and didn't. So, baby steps?
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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      The Fascist Five had a chance to do something evil today and didn't. So, baby steps?
                      Eh. They're just making sure the lawyers have a few more years of pay before SCOTUS eventually rules in favor of the manufacturers anyway.

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                      • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        The Fascist Five had a chance to do something evil today and didn't. So, baby steps?
                        They're just gearing up to tear down DACA and hurt millions of people.
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                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          They're just gearing up to tear down DACA and hurt millions of people.
                          Yep, I see that. OTOH, Latinos are going to be voting 80/20 for Democrats from now on, and Latinos will be 40% of the electorate soon.
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                          • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                            I'll let the legal beagles chime in, but unfortunately the case for keeping DACA doesn't seem that strong. Basically its that if one President can essentially sign an executive order shielding these people, another President has the right to rescind that order. Proof that elections have consequences (although truth be told after talking to trix he's convinced me that Hillary also would have rescinded DACA ).
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                            • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              I'll let the legal beagles chime in, but unfortunately the case for keeping DACA doesn't seem that strong. Basically its that if one President can essentially sign an executive order shielding these people, another President has the right to rescind that order. Proof that elections have consequences (although truth be told after talking to trix he's convinced me that Hillary also would have rescinded DACA ).
                              I'd offer Trump 250 Billion dollars for his wall for DACA. Today. These people, those kids, that have gone to school here, lived here their whole lives, joined the military to fight for our country, those people do not deserve to have their lives upended.

                              Nancy, get it done. Now. Don't wait.
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                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                I'd offer Trump 250 Billion dollars for his wall for DACA. Today. These people, those kids, that have gone to school here, lived here their whole lives, joined the military to fight for our country, those people do not deserve to have their lives upended.

                                Nancy, get it done. Now. Don't wait.
                                Not only would McConnell not lift a finger, Trump routinely agreed to even smaller amounts in 2017 until Stephen Miller whispers in his ear and shuts it down, leaving the Democratic base infuriated with Pelosi and Schumer for offering a wall while also accomplishing nothing
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